• Dr. Bob
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    06 months ago

    I still have no idea what a Tankie is. As far as I can tell it only exists here on Lemmy and I might be one.

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        By skimming the front page I don’t see many tankie-traits. Loads of communism and socialism, sure, but not much tankie stuff. But I’m sure there’s a lot of them in the comments with “interesting” takes on the cultural revolution and the holodomor.

        • @chunes@lemmy.world
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          You’re right. It seems to be mostly anarchists and such. There might have been more tankies back in the day, or maybe I just misremembered.

        • @grte@lemmy.ca
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          In practice, liberals and anarchists call anyone who defines themselves as a communist a tankie. Liberals will frequently use it for anyone who claims to be any sort of socialist.

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            Maybe sometimes. I don’t think this is generally true. Though I’ve also met tankies who think you’re not a real communist unless you’re a tankie. Are you one of those people?

            To me you’re not a tankie unless you consistently apologize for, minimize, or dismiss oppression under so-called socialist countries. There are a decent number of communists who don’t do this but they’re not the majority from what I’ve seen.

          • @Coyote_sly@lemmy.world
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            06 months ago

            I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted for this. I’ve SEEN real tankies, doing odd things like cheering for BRICS to rise up or Russia to defeat NATO in Ukraine because late stage capitalist oligarchy counts as communism if it’s Russian or something, I don’t know?

            But the VAST majority of the time I see it used is by neoliberals as an excuse to dismiss literally anyone anywhere on the actual political left out of hand.

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

      Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, social democrats, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.[5][4]

    • @Blisterexe@lemmy.zip
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      As an example, I recently had someone unironically claim that china has more free speech than france, from a server hosted in france 🤦

    • greenbit
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      It’s just a variety of fascist, pretending to belong with ideologies and principles that are not compatible

    • HobbitFoot
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      06 months ago

      The term came into use for communists who supported the Soviet Union sending in tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution in 1956, with the commentary being that tankies supported Soviet imperialism over local revolution.

      So supporting Palestine over Israel doesn’t make someone a tankie, but supporting Russia over Ukraine does.

      • ArxCyberwolf
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        Some people absolutely will, or for even more than that. Fast food addiction is a serious problem for some. I’ve seen people spend over a hundred dollars on fast food when they could’ve gotten a week’s worth of better food for that price instead.

    • @Sunsofold@lemmings.world
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      That seems pretty popular out in the world as well, just usually with slightly different selections of ‘sometimes.’

    • This is popular. Just look at the celebrations when bin laden got killed. Or how people celebrate executions of heionous criminals. Sure, they say they don’t like “murder”, but they think like: “he should get the death penalty”, which is practically the same thought, but worded in a more… “legal” phrasing.

      I mean maybe not “majority”, but there’s a lot of people that are okay with death penalty. Even the liberals opposing death penalty sometimes think that a mass shooter should get executed, like that white supremacist dude that murdered black people in a church (not gonna name the shithead), biden was doing pardons when he was leaving office and that guy was one of the ones that he did not commute the death sentence of. So he basically implied that he approved of the racist murder getting executed. A president of the US implicitly approved of a killing (a good decision, btw), I mean… that’s as mainstream as it can get.

      Death to the Charleston Church shooter. Lolol (To mods: this is not “violence” since dude is on death row, I’m just wishing for it to be faster LOL)

      TLDR: “Murder” bad, “Executions” okay, is basically the sentinment of some people.

  • @makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world
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    06 months ago

    AI is untrustworthy and shouldn’t be used

    I have management talking about copilot usage rates and I hear people casually refer to “what ChatGPT told them” in conversation

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      06 months ago

      As a software developer I fully agree. People bash on it constantly here but the fact is is that it’s required for our jobs now. I just made it through a job hunt and every tech screen I did they not only insisted on me using AI, but they figured how much I was using too.

      The fact is is that like it or not it does speed us up, and it is a tool in our toolbelt. You don’t have to trust it 100% or blindly accept what it does, but you do need to be able to use it. Refusing to use it is like refusing to use the designer for WinForms 20 years ago, or refusing to use an IDE at work. You’re going to be at a massive disadvantage to your competing jobseekers who are more than happy to use AI.

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          That’s dumbshits using it to do their job for them and trusting the output blindly. If you’re using LLMs to get over the occasional hump they’re awesome time savers.

          I’m guessing you don’t write code?

      • @acchariya@lemmy.world
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        I review take home assignments and mostly we receive AI submissions. It’s easy to tell when they aren’t AI though because we get thoughtful comments about why one choice was made over another, and comments on the higher level view that only come from product context and experience. I don’t think one single fully ai-created submission has made it passed the code review part.

        • Scrubbles
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          06 months ago

          See it’s hard as an interviewer because for the first time ever I lost points at one place because I didn’t use AI at all, and they almost didn’t say yes to me. Their feedback quite literally was that it functioned well, but I could have got it done faster with AI.

          • @acchariya@lemmy.world
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            Seems pointless to test you on anything that could be done by ai, otherwise why even hire someone, just have fewer devs using more ai right? I want to test people on whether they have experience to notice things and make decisions. Idk if they generate the busy work but that isn’t what I’m grading them on

    • @Zak@lemmy.world
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      AI is untrustworthy and shouldn’t be used

      I have a more nuanced take. AI is simultaneously untrustworthy and useful. For many queries, DuckDuckGo and Google are performing considerably worse than they used to, while Perplexity usually yields good results. Perplexity also handles complex queries traditional search engines just can’t.

      About a third of the time, Perplexity’s text summary of what it found is inaccurate; it may even say the opposite of what a source does. Reading the sources and evaluating their reliability is no less important than with traditional search, but much of the time I think I wouldn’t have found the same sources that way.

      Of course there are other issues with AI, such as power usage and Perplexity in particular being known for aggressive web scraping.

      Nuance and depth isn’t as popular as I’d like on or off Lemmy.

      • @makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world
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        06 months ago

        Ah, but you see, I never claimed AI isn’t useful. In fact, you can check my comment history. I’ve agreed AI is a very useful tool, I still think it shouldn’t be used for ethical, social, and personal reasons

        A problem with nuance is that people want to discuss the specifics and nuances of what they care about but for the most part won’t do that on subjects for other people. So you need to tailor your responses to your audience. FWIW on Lemmy I see a lot more instances of people with specificly opposed takes where both sides have similar vote counts. So while it’s not perfect it’s better than most

        • @village604@adultswim.fan
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          06 months ago

          You can theoretically have an ethical LLM. You can train one from the ground up on non-copyrighted materials using renewable energy.

          But I think what a lot of people are forgetting is that it’s not uncommon for technology to start off super inefficient. A computer used to take up an entire floor of an office building, and a hard drive with a few KB of storage used to be the size of a fridge.

          Now you can have a system orders of magnitude more powerful that’s the size of a postage stamp and consumes less than 1W of power.

          • @makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world
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            06 months ago

            Lots of things theoretically exist: a reasonable terms and conditions, a functioning DMV, a unified charging standard, etc. I’m going to focus my energy on things that are real and not hope someone decides to be morally upstanding. If you’re arguing that the bullshit machine that spreads lies that actively harm people could become so ubiquitous that it fits in any electronic device if we just keep giving it money, then I’d say you’re making my argument for me

      • @village604@adultswim.fan
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        06 months ago

        I’ve found it to be extremely useful for stuff like one-off powershell commands that I’ll use like 3x in my career.

        Just today I was trying to find the command line switches for disk2vhd, and none of the top results, even the official page for the app, had them.

        But Google’s AI had them and provided sources I could use to verify the information.

        But people didn’t do that last part before AI, so I can see why it’s an issue.

        • @YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world
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          Absolutely. I recently needed to satisfy auditors with a report on our network security. Our main guy was on leave, but I quickly got the evidence I needed with a few powershell commands that I would have previously spent way more time googling.

          It’s also decent at reports and short, impersonal emails to suppliers etc. It frees up a lot of my time to do actual work, and for that I think it’s decent.

          Like basically everything in life, the truth is between the extremes. For me it’s useful, but doesn’t replace me and my team. I’m neither an AI evangelist or detractor. It’s just another tool.

      • @phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
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        I think ddg and Google are performing worse because of AI. Pushing their AI services and the tsunami of AI slop make a search harder than SEO did and deprioritizes fixing it.

    • @thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world
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      i actively zone out when anyone higher up than me talks about copilot or chat gpt. i also dressed down a colleague for using chat gpt for a stupid simple task.

    • @GalacticTaterTot@lemmy.world
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      I think it is useful with a constrained dataset. Like using it to summarize things about a dataset, or dumping documents into it and asked getting info about it (like Gemini in Google Drive).

      It is not useful for general question using the whole-ass internet as a dataset.

      Also I wish it was called something other than AI…it’s just a word guesser FFS.

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        the only useful thing my company and collegues have fold for it is taking meeting notes. it just logs everything and summarizies stuff, and it’s like 90% accurate, but it does make plenty of errors.

        however, if i give a presentation with screen sharing, it can’t do shit to summarize that.

      • We should are least refer to inference LLMs as LLMs. The fact that if you asked it something like who is the current CS2 top team, it would give you the top team at the time it was trained is enough proof that the models effectively know nothing.

    • @psx_crab@lemmy.zip
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      06 months ago

      I have people telling me how to do my work because “That’s what ChatGPT suggested, and they’re always accurate”.

      🤷

  • Flax
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    06 months ago

    That it’s okay to kill people who disagree with you

      • dontsayaword
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        06 months ago

        Fascism isn’t a popular opinion

        But being against it is unpopular

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          everyone iknow IRL who uses the word facist is mostly just talking about things they hate or people they dislike.

          Like having to get the FD to opprove occupany permit for an event is ‘facist’ to these folks. They tend to be anarchist idealists who think there should be no rules, except for fashion. because they are all very concerned with other people’s clothing choices for some reason too.