You’re not a revolutionary. You’re a cosplayer with a complex and a folder full of cherrypicked pdfs, reciting slogans like it’s still 1917 and pretending it makes you moral and intellectuall. It doesn’t.
“Brainwashing isn’t real, because the CIA couldn’t scientifically reproduce it.”
You do realize you just tried to argue that propaganda works because it reflects material conditions and in the same breath deny brainwashing, which is literally coercive propaganda. You’re not making a point. You’re just putting Marxist vocabulary on a merrygoround and hoping it makes you sound profound.
As for North Korea, spare me the “they have free healthcare” fairy tale. North Koreans also have free labor camps, free starvation, and free executions for watching the wrong movies. But sure US sanctions are why they have zero access to uncensored information and why three generations of a cult family rule with godlike authority. Blaming the U.S. for North Korea’s failures is like blaming the fire department for how your meth lab exploded.
“Knowing the names of the Kim family is the bare minimum.”
And yet somehow, despite your encyclopedic knowledge of Kim family trivia, you can’t manage basic moral clarity. You’re passionately defending a regime that murders people for trying to leave. But hey, they have education, right? Nothing says “quality schooling” like indoctrinating 5 year olds to worship a hereditary dictator.
“Imperialism is only economic.”
Tell that to the millions crushed under tanks, starved by planned economies, or shot for disobedience. Your definition of imperialism is so narrow it wouldn’t even cover the British Empire, but I’m sure it helps you sleep at night while defending military invasions by calling them “liberations.” You could hand Stalin a bayonet and a map and you’d still find a way to claim it was worker-led peacekeeping.
“Most Soviet citizens want it back.”
Nostalgia ≠ legitimacy. People miss stability. That doesn’t mean gulags, censorship, and breadlines were good. It means capitalism also failed them. But unlike you, they’re not worshiping the boot that stepped on them they just don’t like the new one either.
“The Gulag Archipelago is fiction.”
And your source is the New York Times a capitalist propaganda outlet according to your own ideology, until it magically agrees with you. The irony is delicious. You’ll dismiss Gulag Archipelago as fiction because Solzhenitsyn wasn’t state approved, but you’ll worship Soviet press releases as gospel. Your logic is as flexible as a Stalinist show trial
You are not an anti-imperialist. You’re just angry the wrong empire won.
Ah yes, cherry-picked pdfs from 1917 like the Wikipedia page for Brainwashing, a NYT article from Solzhenitsyn’s ex-Wife showing that the Gulag Archipelago is folklore, a book by Dr. Michael Parenti written in the 1990s, and a mid-2010s study from the Ash Center. Incredible cognitive dissonance on display on your part.
“Brainwashing” doesn’t exist. People license themselves to believe that the systems that they believe materially benefit them are good. This is how propaganda works. It isn’t possible for a truly brutal system that is horribly repressive to the majority of society to truly trick them into believing its good, it requires that there be a base level of truth to the system being materially beneficial. Capitalists in the US are more likely to believe it to be morally good, same with labor aristocrats bribed with the spoils from imperialism.
As for the DPRK, you have already proven that you have no idea what you’re talking about and have no sources. There’s nothing to discuss, here. Their rates of starvation are lower now than peer capitalist countries, the Arduous March was in the 90s when starvation was prevalent and the US magnified it by preventing them from trading goods they produced for foodstuffs in the global economy in a time of natural disaster.
Again, you go back to claims of “brainwashing,” which isn’t accepted by anyone anymore. Read North Korea: Another Country by Bruce Cummings, a liberal historian that is largely anti-DPRK yet still manages to provide an objective view of the real conditions and systems in the DPRK.
There were not “millions crushed under tanks,” unless you mean the millions of German Nazis killed by the Soviets when liberating the world from Hitler and the Nazis. The British Empire absolutely falls under the definition of imperialism, it used vast extractions from countries like India that ended up causing mass famines that killed millions of people, like the Bengal Famine of 1943.
People miss socialism, read the article. The safety nets provided by the socialist system worked far better than the system of rampant plunder that replaced it. 7 million excess deaths occured around the world thanks to the fall of the USSR. Poverty, sex work, wealth disparity, starvation, all skyrocketed while literacy and life expectancy fell.
Yes, I indeed used a right-wing, liberal source to debunk another right-wing work of fiction. Would you rather I use a communist source? Are only far-right sources that agree with your far-right views acceptable to you? Solzhenitsyn’s own ex-wife outed it as folklore, there was no historical evidence provided, just a large memoir written by a right-winger. This is what I mean by licensing, despite no historical backing, you defend a right-wing work of fiction because it conforms to your beliefs.
I’m an anti-imperialist. You still haven’t come up with a definition of imperialism that both includes the USSR while excluding the US’s Union invading the Confederacy as imperialist. You just rely on sloganeering and doublespeak, again proving the meme correct.
You’re not a revolutionary. You’re a cosplayer with a complex and a folder full of cherrypicked pdfs, reciting slogans like it’s still 1917 and pretending it makes you moral and intellectuall. It doesn’t.
You do realize you just tried to argue that propaganda works because it reflects material conditions and in the same breath deny brainwashing, which is literally coercive propaganda. You’re not making a point. You’re just putting Marxist vocabulary on a merrygoround and hoping it makes you sound profound.
As for North Korea, spare me the “they have free healthcare” fairy tale. North Koreans also have free labor camps, free starvation, and free executions for watching the wrong movies. But sure US sanctions are why they have zero access to uncensored information and why three generations of a cult family rule with godlike authority. Blaming the U.S. for North Korea’s failures is like blaming the fire department for how your meth lab exploded.
And yet somehow, despite your encyclopedic knowledge of Kim family trivia, you can’t manage basic moral clarity. You’re passionately defending a regime that murders people for trying to leave. But hey, they have education, right? Nothing says “quality schooling” like indoctrinating 5 year olds to worship a hereditary dictator.
Tell that to the millions crushed under tanks, starved by planned economies, or shot for disobedience. Your definition of imperialism is so narrow it wouldn’t even cover the British Empire, but I’m sure it helps you sleep at night while defending military invasions by calling them “liberations.” You could hand Stalin a bayonet and a map and you’d still find a way to claim it was worker-led peacekeeping.
Nostalgia ≠ legitimacy. People miss stability. That doesn’t mean gulags, censorship, and breadlines were good. It means capitalism also failed them. But unlike you, they’re not worshiping the boot that stepped on them they just don’t like the new one either.
And your source is the New York Times a capitalist propaganda outlet according to your own ideology, until it magically agrees with you. The irony is delicious. You’ll dismiss Gulag Archipelago as fiction because Solzhenitsyn wasn’t state approved, but you’ll worship Soviet press releases as gospel. Your logic is as flexible as a Stalinist show trial
You are not an anti-imperialist. You’re just angry the wrong empire won.
Ah yes, cherry-picked pdfs from 1917 like the Wikipedia page for Brainwashing, a NYT article from Solzhenitsyn’s ex-Wife showing that the Gulag Archipelago is folklore, a book by Dr. Michael Parenti written in the 1990s, and a mid-2010s study from the Ash Center. Incredible cognitive dissonance on display on your part.
“Brainwashing” doesn’t exist. People license themselves to believe that the systems that they believe materially benefit them are good. This is how propaganda works. It isn’t possible for a truly brutal system that is horribly repressive to the majority of society to truly trick them into believing its good, it requires that there be a base level of truth to the system being materially beneficial. Capitalists in the US are more likely to believe it to be morally good, same with labor aristocrats bribed with the spoils from imperialism.
As for the DPRK, you have already proven that you have no idea what you’re talking about and have no sources. There’s nothing to discuss, here. Their rates of starvation are lower now than peer capitalist countries, the Arduous March was in the 90s when starvation was prevalent and the US magnified it by preventing them from trading goods they produced for foodstuffs in the global economy in a time of natural disaster.
Again, you go back to claims of “brainwashing,” which isn’t accepted by anyone anymore. Read North Korea: Another Country by Bruce Cummings, a liberal historian that is largely anti-DPRK yet still manages to provide an objective view of the real conditions and systems in the DPRK.
There were not “millions crushed under tanks,” unless you mean the millions of German Nazis killed by the Soviets when liberating the world from Hitler and the Nazis. The British Empire absolutely falls under the definition of imperialism, it used vast extractions from countries like India that ended up causing mass famines that killed millions of people, like the Bengal Famine of 1943.
People miss socialism, read the article. The safety nets provided by the socialist system worked far better than the system of rampant plunder that replaced it. 7 million excess deaths occured around the world thanks to the fall of the USSR. Poverty, sex work, wealth disparity, starvation, all skyrocketed while literacy and life expectancy fell.
Yes, I indeed used a right-wing, liberal source to debunk another right-wing work of fiction. Would you rather I use a communist source? Are only far-right sources that agree with your far-right views acceptable to you? Solzhenitsyn’s own ex-wife outed it as folklore, there was no historical evidence provided, just a large memoir written by a right-winger. This is what I mean by licensing, despite no historical backing, you defend a right-wing work of fiction because it conforms to your beliefs.
I’m an anti-imperialist. You still haven’t come up with a definition of imperialism that both includes the USSR while excluding the US’s Union invading the Confederacy as imperialist. You just rely on sloganeering and doublespeak, again proving the meme correct.