Every time it’s gotten to this point in the past, I’ve regretted having the convo and felt dumber for getting bogged down in it.
I could use a refresh as while I went to college for politics, I started smoking weed because of how viciously Bernie was shit on and how that directly led to a Trump win. Everything political since then has been a brown haze of shit.
Not all officials but some.
Right now, I’m not because I don’t want to and you can research it too.
No it’s like saying CEOs set their own salaries.
When it’s not well regulated yes. When it is, it lets people own things and the wealth distribution isn’t fucked.
Since Tiananmen Square.
“Capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.“
Google.
While capitalism can be used for evil, it can also be used for good.
Bigger text doesn’t make your point look better it makes it look obnoxious, but there is a lot of truth in that.
Our problem is we’ve grown so big because we’ve had more nature to conquer and now we’ve conquered the land, we only have each other left to conquer unless we figure out a way to conquer more nature.
There are no capitalists in China, China itself is the capitalist.
The gov officials set their own salaries and control the means of production. In that way it seems capitalist but in a way where everyone decides to become a single capitalist collectively rather than having individual capitalists wielding disproportionate power.
The most efficient mode of production doesn’t really matter if you want your economy to thrive, helping the working class does, and China is now better at than than the US. That’s why they’re doing well, not because they’re less capitalist. Capitalism can help the working class more than hurt it just as easily as not.
That’s actually a good point but I would argue when power is in the hands of the public as you say, the gov officials become the capitalists.
That’s a type of capitalism.
More like, capitalism is the road. There’s a lot ways to build a road, and some roads are better than others, but you need the road. When there is no road, you create one. Whether the currency is money, favors, ideas, or bartering.
The best you can do is control it for a time.
Yes and no. We conquer and dominate and build. All human cities look roughly similar. Productivity wins because it conquers those who aren’t.
Even China uses their own form of capitalism. Chinese history is more capitalist than most countries too imo. China hasn’t risen above capitalism, they mastered their own style of it, but as waves rise and fall, the state of a country’s economy is ever changing. Today they are wolves, but without the century of humiliation they might not be, just as America would not have had anywhere to fall if did not climb so high.
We’re literally going to capitalize ourselves to death because of human nature.
Basically, humans trade, humans establish hierarchy, hierarchy establishes currency based on real things or favors to deal with the presence of other hierarchy and to compete, real things end up being used as it is more reliable and favor based economies get conquered, capitalism.
All roads lead to capitalism.
I like this analogy, because you can kill all those other ideologies and it’ll come back as capitalism and even when you kill capitalism, it doesn’t stay gone so you just make it work for you.
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Rage of the Machine.