In the 90’s a lot of popular song were pretty political, remember Killing in the name of and even the skate pop-punk has pretty popular political song’s (Offspring, Blink Green-day). Actually political movies were also quite big in the 90’s/00’s (French Masterpiece La haine, or the whole work of Michael Moore).
I would expect to see that the people who were teens/young adult at the time would tackle all these issues 20-30 years latter when they’ll finally take the power and the reality is that everything got worse, than even talking about-it make you sound like a radical, and that the gen-X/Millennials totally failed to change something.
What happened ? and how did we fail ?
Because the shit head boomers are still in charge and doing everything in their power to keep it that way.
Everyone thinks grandpa should die but nobody wants to kill their grandpa
It’s a class war, not a generational one. Millennials have just as many rich jerks as any other generation.
There is an element of generational conflict that is tied into the class war. Most Boomers have moved on from being labor to being on fixed income and capital returns.
A bunch of assets millineals will never have. They are not aware of how pretentious they are with their retirement parties while they invite those who have no hopes of ever having one. It’s so frustrating. It’s like, yay, I’ll just come celebrate your pension and your lufe with goals while my generation plans a bullet for retirement.
Because there’s still more boomers than gen X…
Even after a lot of boomers are dying off. Generations after X were immediately larger, so there’s never been or never will be a time where Gen X is the largest/target demographic.
It just happens like that sometimes, Gen X just never had the numbers
Gen X became the boomers I think. Seems it’s a trend when you get older you get crazier.
“If you’re not a liberal when you’re 20, you have no heart; if you’re not a conservative when you’re 40, you have no head.”
A quote tossed at me by a MAGA friend before Trump won in 2106. I stopped talking to them for a year or so because I didn’t want to say something that would actually end our friendship.
It’s such a fucking stupid, insulting quote.
Why’s that?
Because being a liberal (not the leftist definition of liberal) doesn’t mean you have no brain.
I’m assuming by your question that you’re implying it’s true, which funny enough gives some credence to the first part of the quote. Unless of course you’re a leftist, at that point we’re just quibbling over terminology.
I’m assuming by your question that you’re implying it’s true
Waauw, I’m not even allowed to ask a question. Very intolerant thought policing crowd here!
Unless of course you’re a leftist
I live in a country with more than 2 political parties and ideologies. So the US false dichotomy luckily doesn’t apply.
But I do get now why people think your side of the split is insufferable holy canoly!
No one said you’re not allowed to ask questions…
As for the “leftist” part, this is Lemmy, and spending enough time here you learn that liberal has a very different meaning to some people so I was just covering my bases.
This quote isn’t even relevant anymore. Maybe it was when republicans were pro-business, pro- fiscal conservancy, pro strong defense, and when family values meant family values, but where are those republicans?
Those policy questions are no longer relevant. Even Republicans no longer bring them up as goals (I’ll believe mitt Romney on family values but he retired). Todays Regressives are authoritarian, corrupt, isolationist bullies, out to fleece the government and their constituents, and vent their frustrations on whatever group they can call out as “other”.
You’re probably talking about the US?
You can’t even lump Gen X as a group…
People that were married with kids before the Internet have nothing in common with late Gen X who grew up with computes; “the Oregon trail generation”.
The oldest and youngest Gen X just had widely different experiences that shaped them differently. It’s the result of starting out defining generations around societal changes so they’re similar, and then just doing it on a set schedule regardless of what’s happening.
So yeah, the oldest Gen X are a lot like boomers.
Don’t look at me, I died of dysentery.
American Dad had an Oregon Trail episode, and hit on the idea that spending so much time playing a game where your party just randomly dies from shit like dysenteryprobably has a measurable effect on that cohorts psyche…
Like how old school kids stories were brutal as fuck to get kids used to real life, and the opposite is the Disneyfication of always ending “happily ever after”.
Younger generations expect everything to work out and good to win and evil to fail automatically. Which I think is why so many people refuse to move past “raising awareness”.
They legitimately believe that if enough people are aware of a problem, it’ll just stop being a problem on its own
“Karma will get them!”
No it won’t, Kayden. There is no such thing.
Gen X isn’t as radical on the whole as one might think (of course there’s some incredibly rad exceptions) and, well, boomers haven’t died off yet. They still hold most of the wealth ergo most of the power in America. It’s a geriocracy and it ain’t the 50+ year old Millenials running the show.
And yet, whenever I go to demonstrations, they’re mostly attended by Gen-X-ers.
Millennials failed by not being born in the 50’s. I think you’re making an assumption that newer generations took over politically from Boomers and The Silent Generation, but that shift never occurred. We failed at political change because we never had the same political, social, and economic power as Boomers.
This is the correct answer.
And as Boomers are slowly getting older, even they now see that they need a successor. So they look at… GenZ.
I slowly realize us GenX and Millenials are just some sort of placeholder generation.
Gen X are the Trumpers.
Kurt might have supported Trump. He was not a sensitive artist opposed to capitalism.
Are you fucking high? His suicide note spefically calls out capitalism and its impact on making art.
Nope, has it ever occurred to you how full of shit Cobain was? He wasn’t a leftist by any standard. Go ask his wife.
Not high? Then you are just stupid. Good to know.
Don’t bother replying. I won’t read it. I have enough morons spouting bullshit on the TV and in the news.
Agree. This guy should go back to Reddit. I’ve been here for a few weeks and he’s actually the first aggressive asshole I’ve seen, so at least that’s something.
I was busy playing StarCraft.
Because the system doesn’t work for the people and the oligarchy always wins. To be fair, things have been getting worse since Gen Z has been of voting age.
Reminder that the oligarchs want us divided and fighting each other.
At my age, my parents were on their 5th house. My rent takes half my paycheck and I’m trapped here because I can’t afford to move.
We’re not monolithic. No generation is. Those movies were kinda popular, but they found their success with a subset of the generation, not the entire group.
Just like every other generation, when we’re relatively comfortable (or exhausted from daily survival), we don’t have time to foment revolution.
We never got the power. Look at the government, everyone is 80 years old.
when they’ll finally take the power
This has still not happened.
Boomers are still a massively oversized voting demographic, so vast quantities of political energy are still spent on them.
They’re also typically more susceptible to modern propaganda techniques than any subsequent demographic.
The bulk of modern propaganda is trying to stop people from seeing and tackling the issues causing the problems. If people get angry at immigrants, they’ll not point their fingers at the ultra-wealthy who are actually causing all the issues pricing them out of living their lives.
The people in power are predominantly boomers and gen-Xers with views that align with boomers. There’re practically no millennials in any position of meaningful power across most of the world’s politics. The more radical gen-Xers were never let into the establishment parties, so they languished in the political cold unable to get enough votes under FPTP based systems.
No one can really change shit until the generations go back to being roughly the same size as each other. Hopefully it’s not too late to fix things by that point.
A few reasons.
Part of it is that wealth never really got passed down to us. Boomers got money and houses from their parents. Some GenX got money and houses from theirs. Millennials increasingly have family that live longer because of modern medicine (depending on your family, good or bad) and increasingly have family that burn through all their money because they want to buy mypillows and trump watches. Not to mention how many of us went zero contact because of the aforementioned trumpism.
Which, combined with multiple economic crises (how many of us saw the job market and said “I’mma gonna get a PhD and deal with that later”?) means that millennials have kinda been struggling to even get their lives “started” well into their late 30s. Hard to become a professional politician when you are always a few months away from poverty.
And the last part is… 9-11 kinda fucked us. Basically starting in the early 00s it became a mortal sin to criticize the military. Even today, we are allowed to criticize “the military industrial complex” but NOT the brave men and women who are on our streets oppressing people and helping ice round up brown people and protesters.
So by the time a good chunk of millennials reached the point where we are stable enough to fight and the world isn’t going to villify us for doing so… we also have responsibilities. In your teens and twenties you can talk about burning it all down and quitting your job to live in a tent for 14 months while you smoke weed and protest and smoke weed. You might have kids that you need to give a chance at a better life. A partner with medical concerns. Or just a cat that would slit your throat in your sleep if you moved into a tent.
So all the pushes for progressive politics and the like get us labeled as "traitor neo libs’ by the kids who want to live in tents and film tiktoks and protest and film tiktoks. And when you get told “okay boomer” when you are in your 30s… it is REAL fucking demoralizing (this is where some jackass replies “okay boomer”).
There’s a huge gap between those that understood RATM’s message and those who owned their albums. Many people liked their music but would never oppose capitalism especially when it worked for them.
As evidenced by bootlicking MAGAites dancing to killing in the name of during the BackTheBlue shitshow
Also our generation IMO has a lot more sociopaths and fewer collectivist minded folk.
