Because a big “Join our community discord server!” on the game’s title screen isn’t enough apparently. They have to put a flashy animated GIF at the top of every update notification, change the name of the game’s Steam forum to “Join Our Discord!”, and even reply to posts in the Steam forum saying “You should join our discord so we can chat about it!” as if a forum isn’t a good place to chat about the thing that’s already being discussed.
Bitch please, if I wanted to be in the hell that is Discord I’d already be there, you can stop asking.
Yea I was steam banned by the stormworks developer because of what I said in discord. Don’t diss trump over there.
And then, “@everyone next update coming soon” or whatnot
Thanks for the notification 🫠
(The first thing I do on every Discord server I join is mute it. I want to be very selective about notifications.)
Guess you’ll have to leak secret military documents the old-fashioned way: posting them on the War Thunder forums.
Hold up, are people really stupid enough to send classified documents over fucking Discord?
…now I think about it, I don’t know why I even asked, there’s always one who’s stupid enough to do ANYthing.
It’s actually a running joke because so many people post classified military documents to the warthunder forums
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the hell that is Discord
Out of curiosity, what makes you say Discord is hell?
Where do you want me to start? The shady company that runs it? The godawful webapp and even worse electron “native” apps? All the privacy problems? The lack of any kind of guarantee that what you build there will still be there tomorrow? That’s all I can think of right now, but there’s probably more in the back of my mind somewhere.
Start where you’d like, give me all you’ve got. 😄
Not OP, but:
- Not indexable (can’t use web search engines on its content, not even forums);
- Like Deep Rock Galactic, Discord is full of cave-dwelling creatures that abduct miners;
- The built-in search feature (the only way you can search things on it, mind you) has less filters than my uncle at thanksgiving;
- @everyone
- @everyone
- @everyone
- @everyone
- @everyone
- @everyone
- @everyone
- @everyone
- @everyone
- @everyone
- @everyone
- Can’t mute the entire server because you want notifications for mentions on a few specific channels;
- Said server creates a new channel;
- @everyone
- @everyone
- @everyone
- @everyone
- Can’t use browser bookmarks to manage and enter servers, you have to use THIS fucking thing
- “but they have to pay for uptime somehow”
confirmshaming, plus they got the monopoly on this type of social services by undercutting their competition through venture capital so they could go under tomorrow for all I care
- “but they have to pay for uptime somehow”
- Irrelevant for most people, but the garbage uncollapsible UI makes it painful to make it share screenspace with other windows on a FHD screen (which is a tragedy for tiling WM users);
- The markdown implementation is a bit janky IME
- “By reading the first 9 words of this notice you accept that you may not sue us and have to arbitrate your disputes”
- Third-party clients are against TOS, as you noted below
😆 very good list. I can imagine all of those problems.
I’m very lucky, I am active in maybe 1 server, and then there’s my own which a few of my friends are active in. We’re just in our late 30s gaming with each other. Literally only use discord for the voice channels, nothing else. And I use Niri now, so tiling space is okay.
But I can see why it’s not like this for everyone! 😩
Join my discord to find out more
/j
I was looking around for Discord TUIs or even third party GTK4 Discord clients. None seemed reasonable that I could find, that also supported voice chat. (None do, almost?)
Seems also that using such clients are against the TOS. 😒
there was no sorta promised to delete, they stated in the press release, the actual age verification page and the FAQ page about age verification that the files were temporary… then apparently just didn’t, as I highly doubt 1.5tb of photos are “recent” photos.
Oh yeah, that was pretty bad…
Two questions:
Which game?
What would they win with having players on the Discord server?
Because having your entire community on one platform is just a hell of a lot more convenient and manageable especially for smaller development studios. And Discord offers way better tools for moderation and real time discussions than any other tool I know.
Sure, the searchability via search engines is pretty much none existent. But then again, you don’t really need that if all information regarding your game can be found via the Discord search.
Additionally, players from all platforms can contribute and ask questions on Discord. The same is not true for e.g. the Steam User Forum.
There’s a lot of problems with Discord and I feel like it’s only gonna get worse now that they’re public. But being blatantly oblivious to the obvious reasons why developers are choosing Discord over its alternatives helps no one.
Upselling
A lot of small indie or fan games love to hide on Discord. Got banned? Appeal it on Discord. Wanna submit feedback? Come on over to Discord!
What do they gain from this? Besides making their content impossible to find in search engines, clearly they’re optimizing for maximum inconvenience and peak exclusivity. Nothing says “accessible community” like forcing players to re-ask the same questions in a walled-off chat nobody can Google.
Thank the gods I’m not the only one! Chat rooms are a terrible way to get community feedback, and the bigger the community, the worse it gets. I tried it a couple of times and find it nigh on useless.
I hate discord with a passion. I wish we’d go back to message boards - properly indexed websites that you can search to find discussions on things you need.
Surely IRC would be what you want to replace discord? Or matrix.
Going back to IRC would be fun.
Discord is okay for chat, but a lot of communities seem to think that Discord is a perfectly cromulent support channel… I guess that’s cool if you like to answer the same question a bunch, and want it to be impossible for people to find their answers via Google.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I didn’t think that IRC did any archiving, so it’s actually worse than Discord in that respect.
It kills me every time I see a support or community forum fall to Discord.
Fuck, even PROFESSIONAL APPS have started doing this shit (example Parsec).
Discord is not the right platform to use as a forum.
Quit trying to make it happen
1000000%
It is literally the worst forum platform in existence. For q&A and support, it’s effectively a black hole for information and not only that, it’s a black hole for effort since people will just ask the same bloody questions day in and day out as the information already on Discord becomes unavailable over time
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However, It becomes difficult when you use Discord as a place for your community to chat and to talk with and get feedback from highly engaged players or community members who have things to say about your game and want to talk with each other about the game. You could say that any old form will do here. However, you go to where your community is, you don’t make your community come to you. That only works if you are a bombshell of a title, otherwise, your bounce rate for community members joining and talking and engaging is going to be incredibly high which reduces the chances of your game becoming successful.
One day we are going to lose an unbelievable amount of information, but do you know what is simple to archive and bring back, a simple form from 2005.
Because a big “Join our community discord server!” on the game’s title screen isn’t enough apparently.
Man I hate this shit. So tacky
A lot of gamers actively chose this.
When the teamspeak debacle happened due to the license change a lot of players left out spite and instead of choosing the logical route to independence (like foss alternatives) many went directly to the then soon rising discord to suffer differently in another golden cage.
I will never understand (I chose mumble/murmur).
I’m not here to stan for Discord, it’s pretty crappy. But at the time it first hit the scene it was the killer support app for gaming.
It wasn’t. It just copied slack when it was becoming popular in the dev work world with a marketing blitz. It coincided with team speak sudden death. Slack did most of the marketing and discord bandwagoned on it as the fun slack for video games. Which in essence was just “what if IRC but with voice chat rooms.”
Video game support wasn’t part of Discord intent until people started using it for it. Then they hacked the UX nightmare that is their solution for something the app was never meant to do.
There’s a lot of rationalization there. It was simply the best technical product with lots of killer features when it was rising. People used it because it was the best solution at the time, don’t kid yourself.
This isn’t about people choosing one bad voice chatter over another. This is people who can’t bother to use the best tool for the job.
(And web fora aren’t it)
The only time I would even stop for a second to consider that maybe it’s a good thing for devs to be like “Join Our Discord!” would be for things like pokemon fan games or something like Plants VS Zombies Universe, where Sintendo or EA could come in and drop nukes on these innocent enough seeming ( most of the time ) devs.
I obviously don’t want the corpo clown creeps coming in and destroying under development fan games ( especially PVZ Universe or Pokemon Empire ), but surely we must have better platforms to hide projects on, right? I mean, come on, we’re living in the year 2026, not 2006.
I especially fucking hate when mods are distributed solely through discord. That’s so fucking stupid and a really quick way to ensure I never play what you made.
Discord is such a piece of trash tool. I have to use Slack for work, which is garbage also, but makes sense in such contrxts, but Discord? I don’t want to feel like using a worse at everything else Slack during my time off.
I get it, building community and such, but come on! Forums are such and easier and friendlier way to do this.
To be honest, Slack is so much worse it’s not even comparable. I haven’t used it in the last year, but I was forced to used it because work and even though they added feature it became slightly worse every time.
Sure, I am forced to use Teams, which is WAY worse than Slack was in the beginning. But Discord is at least fast. It is not a bad piece of software per-se, it is just misused because it is so easy to set up.
oh…yeah, forgot about Teams. My employer is using it also and it’s a mess.
I always laugh at the mention of Teams, because it reminds me that at my work we use Teams but the IT department blocked the feature to create teams inside Teams. So instead of Slack is more like a corporate WhatsApp.
They recently finally merged teams, chats, and discussions into one tab, which was probably one of the main pain points and reason why I missed to many messages posted on teams.
The chat is still a mess and I hate it. The calls don’t work about 50% of the time and even tho it is just a PWA in Chrome, it manages to give others echo - not the usual “person X has shitty mic and headphones” type, no, it gives literal 1:1 and the person has to restart tramd and join the call again. The inability to sometimes join the same call on phone and laptop is fucked up - fucking Skype for Businrss could do it, why not this piece of shit that has been developed for several years?!
It’s so stupid they have discord channels but not a forum where actual discussion can happen. You can’t have a conversation in a live chat room that has hundreds to thousands of people. It’s just a constsnt scroll you can’t actually fuckin’ read!
for like pen and paper role playing it can be nice when you have rooms for particular games but I agree for video games I rather have forums. I mean if its an mmo or such I can chat in game and if its not then I don’t see any point to chating.
I mod a server with 13k people, it’s really not that bad when you have channels, threads, and forums.
That’s just the Twitch brainrot. People that want forums back (including me) do not want to be in a room with 13k people. That’s not a community, it’s so much bigger than the monkeysphere.
