Who even is that
it’s Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes
While I appreciate that he is a transphobe, and that may be the nexus between him and yourself, he’s a whole lot more than that.
It’s one of his many assaults against decent humanity.
Who? Doesn’t matter, yes
The only meme I see in this version is one complaining about needing to use this version over the original one.
It isn’t helping.
In fact, because the name is spelled-out, more people now know about the guy.
Yeah, the original meme is clowning the guy, showing that he’s an idiot with frivolous opinions
Why, because there are only two genders?
Educate yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender#Non-binary_and_third_genders
Uff, if wikipedia says so…
Wikipedia doesn’t assert anything, it simply compiles information found in other sources. Which it cites.
As opposed to the dumbass comment that the mods removed?
It’s just a scientific fact, based on reproductive anatomy, chromosomes and hormone levels…
Let’s see your evidence then, should be good for a laugh if nothing else.
Hmm… bear with me. When a baby is about to be born, you wonder if it is a boy or a girl, right? Or should I also ask if it is a fighter jet?
Evidence. Do you know what that is?
Here’s some in case you’re stuck:
Hey look, another bigot who can’t tell the difference between gender, sex, and the congressional industrial military complex. It must be confusing thinking that non-binary people might be tanks or cruise missiles or whatever. But it gets easier to figure out once you get that high school diploma.
If they were capable of being educated they wouldn’t be a conservative bigot in the first place
People can change as they learn new things
And some people have a far worse starting point for knowledge depending on the preexisting information they were given
Hell I look at the things I said over 15 years ago and I hate that I had said such hurtful things about groups of people that not only now do I call my friends but some of them I have called my significant others as well
BTW I’m not sure what they said as their comment was gone before I got here
Some people can change.
I congratulate you on becoming a better person, but I’ve given up trying to educate conservatives. Every single conservative I personally know has only gotten worse over the years, and the last straw for me was when I had one who self-identifies as a “moderate conservative” flat out tell me that he wishes gender and sexual minorities didn’t exist, and that he thinks the mere existence of these minorities is “polarizing” and makes him feel uncomfortable.
So yes, while I fully acknowledge that it’s possible for conservatives to unfuck themselves and that being dismissive of them definitely won’t help, I’m just so past trying to be the better person when all I get back is shit like thinly veiled wishes for a “final solution”. I’m so fucking tired of the onus being on progressives for trying to make conservatives better people
And some people have a far worse starting point for knowledge depending on the preexisting information they were given
Exactly. As the person responded with the link on Wikipedia about existence of third genders, I find that those who are anti-lgbt were just conditioned as such because of either religion, or plain homophobia, or both. I’ve lived in both religious and non-religious countries, and the former have anti-lgbt sentiment for obvious reasons. Meanwhile, homophobia in the latter-- especially in Europe–are more motivated by sheer disgust on non-heteronormative genders and less about religion. But I still think that the anti-lgbt sentiment by many Europeans is a residue and offshoot from patriarchal and homophobic teachings of Christianity.
Got’em lmaoooooo
I really hope that’s sarcasm.
It wasn’t
lmao what the fuck where did this come from?
Dude stfu no one is here for your insecurities lol
Hello there. I just mentioned the origin of the meme, which consisted of the guy saying that there are only two genders, and he would have to be convinced otherwise
Imagine being such a failure that you can’t even masquerade as a troll without looking pathetic holy shit lmao
Oh boy…
Got’em lmaoooooo
Edit: no jk dude im sure you’re actually really cool irl fr fr I like that you downvoted me tho.
An effective troll doesn’t get emotion pal 😭 go be a tryhard somewhere else. I heard 4chan is cool.
Emotional, tryhard… Are you ok? Get well, get well soon.
You’re either a child who needs the last word or
And yet I pulled more bitches than you without a gender, curious
Shouldn’t use Watterson’s work. He fought long and hard against stuff like this…
I mean, not really though. He fought to keep companies from merchandizing C&H, mainly because he “wanted to keep the characters pure to every reader’s internal voice.” Basically to keep companies from turning it into a shitty profit center or bastardizing it with a cartoon, etc. I don’t think he really said anything or would have a problem with fans using the images to share stuff, y’know?
Becoming a meme format is a great way to strip all of the original context for most, just look at the point of this thread. Just because it’s C+H isn’t going to stop that.
Like we saw with the bumper stickers, it wasn’t just the stupid Ford v Chevy thing, it was that anyone wanting to make a stupid point on their bumper sticker was lending Calvin’s voice to their own stupid crusade.
Like this specifically?
Could you link to more information about this?
He’s famously against all commercialization of the strip and I think he’d feel this similarly devalues it.
That seems to be mostly about monetization and commodification, which should already be absent from shitposting.
I get that but I respect Watterson too much to assume his stance.
Did you mean “this” stance, maybe?
I suppose that would also have worked, but no.
I think he’d feel this similarly devalues it.
I respect Watterson too much to assume his stance.
Well… which is it? Do you respect him too much to assume his stance or are you assuming he’d feel this similarly devalues it?
I mean I don’t want to assume he’d be alright with it therefore I won’t use it. Nothing I said was definitive, just what I think.
Well somebody should pop over to Chagrin Falls and ask him
Here is a wiki source (insert error bars here) discussion of his stance on his work being officially licensed. He thought that use of his work outside of a comic strip would cheapen the value of the strip itself. This was frusterating as a child (who wouldn’t want a fucking Hobbes plushy) but now later I can see that it was at the very least a very defensible choice. Compare how people feel about C&H vs something that was commercialized to death like Garfield. Anyway, hope it’s useful.
Cancel culture can go die in an echo chamber
What about that comment is cancel culture?
Cancel Culture, Woke, Communism… When you don’t understand a lot about the modern world, you just start using words and phrases you also don’t understand to mean “I dislike this”
Nice straw man; no just cancel culture.
Again, what do you mean by cancel culture? The original comment was asking for people to honour Watterson’s view that Calvin should not be used outside the comic. Who was being cancelled and how?
Read OPs meme, then the comment above mine and try again for context. Pretty self explanatory: Meme is a “we should stop … piece of shit” a calvin cancel x meme…
So you don’t actually have an explanation. Chowder is a bigot, and people shouldn’t give him a platform. You defending him is consigning his bigotry.
Also he hasn’t been cancelled, nor is he likely to be.
Are you upset that people don’t like him and are speaking out against him? Or is it a larger disdain about the practice of speaking out against people and calling for them to be excluded?
If it is the second one, Chowder makes his money that way, and participates in a practice you claim to disdain.
Though I think it’s the first beacuse you like what he says.
This isn’t cancel culture though. You are proving my point.
And my last post wasn’t a straw man either… It was describing people who use terms they don’t understand to express their dislike of things. It’s literally you. In this thread.
I mean… I guess it could be that you’re knowingly misusing it just to create anger and division. But you wouldn’t do that, would you? That would make -you- the problem.
Yeah, considering they haven’t even tried to respond, this is the most likely scenario.
If you don’t know how shitty of a person Steven Crowder is, take a look at this video (tw: verbal abuse) of him berating his pregnant wife.
His whole thing with “Change My Mind” is him going around to college campuses and debate-lording unprepared college students, and at the first sign of losing he weasels out.
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Calvin! Watch your mouth!
We should stop using Calvin in our stupid memes.
do you want them to be stupid or not?
Without something like this, I could have gone my whole life not knowing who he was or his opinions. I bet most people are in that boat. Also, it’s not like he makes money from the meme format.
Not really sure what’s gained from changing it.
A feeling of moral supperiority that lemmitors crave
I bet the guy doesn’t even use Linux.
Wait why are we mad at Calvi and Hobbs?
We aren’t. Op is saying we should use this instead of the template with Steven crowder cause Steven crowder is a piece of shit.
But why do we want to make memes making fun of Calvin if they didn’t do anything wrong?
We are not. OP writes about the regular “change my mind” meme guy
First time I see the name, had to search it. To me, it is just a “change my mind” meme with no relevance as to which person is in it.
Didn’t his wife cheat on him or some shit and he’s in the middle of divorce right now?
I say we lose the entire Crowder meme format. The “change my mind” bit was from one of his stunts, and this is just keeping it alive longer
There’s still many other meme formats that send the same message, we don’t need to sully Calvin’s image by associating it with a Crowder stunt
It only keeps it alive for those who know it. I had no idea who that dude was or where it was from.
