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Track_Shovel to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish • 2 years ago

More people died by the spear than the sword, and if you don't like my opinion, I'll shove it up your ass with sharp stick!

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More people died by the spear than the sword, and if you don't like my opinion, I'll shove it up your ass with sharp stick!

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Track_Shovel to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish • 2 years ago
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  • ThenThreeMore
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    89•2 years ago

    It’s because people want to imagine themselves as a hero, engaging in one on one combat. A knight or samurai.

    They don’t want to imagine themselves as a barely trained serf in a block with 30 other people holding 3m long pikes trying not to shit yourself as arrows start to rain down.

    • @LemmysMum@lemmy.world
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      24•2 years ago

      Shit, even in one on one martial combat, give me range and I’ll take it. Knife < Sword < Spear < Bow

      • @deeznutz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        16•2 years ago

        Knife < sword < spear < bow < trebuchet

        • Kühe sind toll
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          8•2 years ago

          Knife < sword < spear < bow < crossbow < trebuchet

          • @FooBarrington@lemmy.world
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            4•2 years ago

            Knife < sword < spear < bow < crossbow < trebuchet < arbalists thrown by trebuchets

            • Dr. Coomer
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              2 years ago

              Knife < sword < spear < bow < crossbow < trebuchet < arbalists thrown by trebuchets < napalm thrown by trebuchets

          • @blackluster117@possumpat.io
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            1•2 years ago

            Knife < sword < spear < bow < crossbow < WA 2000 < trebuchet

        • @Squirrel@thelemmy.club
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          1•2 years ago

          The most elegant weapon.

    • @Umbrias@beehaw.org
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      4•2 years ago

      By the time of 3m pikes most infantry would be receiving pretty decent training.

  • R0cket_M00se
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    77•2 years ago

    It was only folded so many times because the ore on Honshu is pretty low grade and had to have the carbon worked out of it more than European steel.

    • Track_ShovelOP
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      43•2 years ago

      Wait, you mean it’s not because it gives me the ability to part steel plate in a single slash?

      • R0cket_M00se
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        36•2 years ago

        You only get that when you fold it 69 times.

        • macniel
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          13•2 years ago

          Nice

          • @abcd@feddit.de
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            7•2 years ago

            Nice

      • @misterundercoat@lemmy.world
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        Wow you must be a novice if you still need to slash. A true bushido master can cut steel without unsheathing the blade.

    • @Sigh_Bafanada@lemmy.world
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      7•2 years ago

      As I understand it, it wasn’t to work the carbon out of it, but instead to simply evenly spread the impurities throughout the whole sword, so there weren’t any specific points of weakness

    • @doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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      Obligatory “It wasn’t folded 1000 times, it was folded 11 times giving it more than a thousand folds.” Fun fact, the older traditional Japanese forges were basically assembled from mud found right there on the rivers where they found their low grade iron, and this process was kept alive by spiritualism and tradition conservatives, so it’s honestly a miracle they assembled anything long and sharp at all. Most of the iron in Japan is considered low grade Pyrite at only 46% iron, while other places in the world had access to Magnetite with up to 72% iron before any refining.

  • rockerface 🇺🇦
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    59•2 years ago

    Long stick > any other melee weapon

    • Narrrz
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      69•2 years ago

      the bow and arrow is just a logical extension of mankind’s desire to poke each other at ever longer range.

      • rockerface 🇺🇦
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        51•2 years ago

        The natural wish to poke but not get poked back

      • TimeSquirrel
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        rock->spear->bow and arrow->cannon->handheld cannon->auto-repeating handheld cannon->howitzer->ICBM->Predator drone

        • Shurimal
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          ->relativistic kill vehicle.

          You see it coming, omae wa mou shindeiru.

          Only thing more scary would be triggering a vacuum decay event. But these tend to backfire quite spectacularly.

          • @LemmysMum@lemmy.world
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            Orbital weapons platforms fit in there somewhere.

    • Hot Saucerman
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      11•2 years ago

      Gotta have that reach.

    • @explodicle@local106.com
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      3•2 years ago

      Aliens see us as the water balloon planet.

  • @empireOfLove@lemmy.one
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    This just in- being able to hurt your enemy from farther away than they can hurt you conveys a large tactical advantage. More at 11.

    • @IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee
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      In a related story, artillery always beats infantry, hence David and Goliath. More at 11

    • @workerONE@lemmy.ml
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      I think a shield and sword together are better than a spear https://youtu.be/uLLv8E2pWdk?si=vXiyUTTnSbIq-vC8

      • @lud@lemm.ee
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        6•2 years ago

        Wait until you hear about Spears with shields.

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        1•2 years ago

        Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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  • Norgur
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    37•2 years ago

    Even for all who had swords, their primary assault weapon was usually some form of pointy murder stick, usually handheld and horse-propelled

    • @Tankton@lemm.ee
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      10•2 years ago

      The sword is the pistol of ancient times whereas the sprear is the assault rifle.

  • @yaminoEXE@ttrpg.network
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    32•2 years ago

    Chinese Soldiers: “What if we put a sword on a stick and call it a day?”

  • Andrew
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    10•2 years ago

    It isn’t folded 1000 times, only about 10 times.

    • @GorgeousWalrus@feddit.de
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      37•2 years ago

      In fairness, this would give you 1024 layers ;)

    • Track_ShovelOP
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      7•2 years ago

      Sir, your fedora is showing

      But really, its a sword not noodles (which are folded when made by hand)

      • @SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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        18•2 years ago

        Superior Japanese noodles, folded over 1000 times.

        • @IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee
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          3•2 years ago

          I have been amazed to learn how many Asian noodles there really are, and how different they are.

  • @bi_tux@lemmy.world
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    4•2 years ago

    What about halberts?

    • @misterundercoat@lemmy.world
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      9•2 years ago

      That dude from the Office?

  • @Szwajcer@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4•2 years ago

    Present in very many cultures as well. Be it called yari, ji, iklwa or sarissa they are all long pokey sticks.

    • @Jumi@lemmy.world
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      Sharpening a stick regardless of length is probably one of the easiest ways to get a weapon

  • Altima NEO
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    3•2 years ago

    KANCHOOO

    • Track_ShovelOP
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      1•2 years ago

      DONG CHIM!

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