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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish • 1 year ago

Trump launched CIA covert influence operation against China, this operation was continued by Biden

www.reuters.com

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Trump launched CIA covert influence operation against China, this operation was continued by Biden

www.reuters.com

☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish • 1 year ago
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  • @WarmSoda@lemm.ee
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    While true, you don’t think China hasn’t done the same thing to other countries?

    • davel [he/him]
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      This kind of everybody’s doing it argument flattens the scale to which countries are doing it to a binary. No country is doing it to anywhere near the scale to which the US is, just as no country but the US has over 750 overseas military bases around the world, and is building more to further encircle China. No other country constantly has multiple regime change operations in play around the world at the same time.

      • @WarmSoda@lemm.ee
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        Well yeah. I’m not talking about scale though.

        • @tiredturtle@lemmy.ml
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          I kinda see your point. Everybody knows the USA does wrong things on a huge scale, and while that is true, the most vocal about it don’t care when the rest of the competing authoritarian regimes do worse things on a smaller scale.

          • @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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            Like? You mean genocide or concentration camps or forced hysterectomies? USA does it, China and Russia “near peer competitors” do not.

    • queermunist she/her
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      I don’t think it needs to when they can buy influence with cheap loans from their development bank for the Belt and Road Initiative, especially when they keep forgiving loans that can’t be paid back instead of forcing austerity down countries’ throats like the World Bank and IMF.

      Countries that are pro-China just have a material interest in their relationship with China. Why bother with an influence campaign?

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        You seriously think the country that has its own citizens spy on each other for social points doesn’t spy on and try to influence other countries? Lol Come on.

        • queermunist she/her
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          5•1 year ago

          Why would it? China wants to rule China, not the world (unlike the US lol)

          • @WarmSoda@lemm.ee
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            You guys are a special kind of naive here

            • @brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml
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              Says the person still repeating the tired old “social credit” nonsense

              • @WarmSoda@lemm.ee
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                There’s no socal credit in China?
                What’s this? https://credit.gz.gov.cn/

                (Hint: it’s the Chinese social credit system)

                • @brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml
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                  Lol, that’s what you’re trying to pass off as “has its own citizens spy on each other for social points”? A rating scheme that applies to businesses and not individuals, and wasn’t widely applied anyway?

                  If you think that’s bad, wait until you hear about this thing they have in the West called “credit scores” lol.

                  • @WarmSoda@lemm.ee
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                    I’m curious, what country do you live in?

                • @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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                  You know what real credit scoring dystopia looks like? FICO and VantageScore.

            • queermunist she/her
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              Stop being so credulous and believing everything the State Department tells you lol

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      Removed by mod

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        Removed by mod

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