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@nekandro@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml • 1 year ago

Ukraine claims its sea drones sank a Russian warship. Moscow says Patriot missiles downed its plane

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Ukraine claims its sea drones sank a Russian warship. Moscow says Patriot missiles downed its plane

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@nekandro@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml • 1 year ago
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Ukraine claims its sea drones sank a Russian ship. Moscow says a Patriot missiles downed its plane
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Ukraine is claiming it used sea drones to sink a Russian corvette in the Black Sea during a nighttime attack.
  • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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    “Downed its plane” is burying the lede lol “The aircraft was carrying captive Ukrainian military personnel who had been slated to be exchanged in a prisoner swap.”

    Russia’s Il-76 plane was presumably downed by Patriot missile system - source — TASS

    31 Jan 2024 (archive link)

    The Ukrainian armed forces shot down an Il-76 military cargo aircraft over Russia’s borderline Belgorod Region on January 24. It was presumably downed by a Western-made Patriot missile system, a law enforcement source told TASS.

    “Most likely, a Patriot missile system was used. A probe continues” he said. Another source confirmed this information to TASS.

    Il-76 crash

    The Ukrainian armed forces shot down an Il-76 military cargo aircraft over Russia’s borderline Belgorod Region on January 24. The aircraft was carrying captive Ukrainian military personnel who had been slated to be exchanged in a prisoner swap. The crash killed all 74 people on board, including 65 Ukrainian POWs. The Russian Defense Ministry described the incident as a terrorist attack, pointing out that Kiev had been aware of the mission to transport Ukrainian POWs for a prisoner swap set to take place at the Kolotilovka checkpoint. However, Kiev attacked the plane in order to accuse Moscow of killing Ukrainian service members, the ministry noted.

    • cartoon meme dog
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      Only five bodies were recovered, which is about normal for the crew of the plane. There is no evidence of any prisoners. None of the photos or videos from the crash site show a large number of bodies. Russia lied, as usual.

      • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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        Lol the CNN story was based on an anonymous intel source. Zelensky was saying the Russians shot it down 🤣🤣

      • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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        “Russia lied as usual”

        Amazing how you managed to lose multiple counteroffensives while winning the entire time. Do you ever get the feeling that maybe you’re the one getting duped?

        As promised, here’s my audit of Oryx’s equipment loss tracking. Oryx is well touted by institutional and mainstream media sources for an independent and open source verifiable low end accounting of equipment losses in the Ukraine War.

        https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/05/13/remember-the-maine-the-alleged-russian-atrocity-at-bucha-looks-like-another-in-a-long-line-of-false-pretexts-for-war/

        https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/09/28/videos-obtained-by-a-nato-nations-intelligence-agency-but-now-classified-allegedly-expose-ukrainian-military-as-responsible-for-killing-of-civilians-at-bucha/

        Beatings, Stabbings, & Electric Shocks: Donetsk Militia Vets’ Ordeal in Ukraine’s Torture Chambers

        Olga spent 120 days in SBU captivity. She endured endless interrogations, torture with electric shocks in a specially set up torture chamber in the basement. An electric current would pass through metal electrodes placed upon wet tissues in the area of the kidneys. “The pain was excruciating, impossible to describe in words,” recalled Olga.

        https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/04/06/was-alleged-russian-army-massacre-of-civilians-at-bucha-actually-a-false-flag-event-staged-by-ukrainian-nazis/

        https://covertactionmagazine.com/2023/07/17/the-lord-of-the-underworld-meet-the-paratrooper-from-north-carolina-who-orchestrated-the-war-in-ukraine/

        On February 2, 2023, a Russian gunner watched a column of vehicles drive through the streets of Bakhmut, the site of what could be the most ferocious fighting of the Russo-Ukrainian war. The column consisted of a Land Rover of the same type Ukrainian forces routinely use for military purposes and several unmarked civilian vans. Severe shortages of military vehicles mean that “civilian” vehicles are pressed into service by the Ukrainian military in large numbers, often without even bothering to repaint them.

        The practice is so common and accepted among Ukrainian forces that the far-right German tabloid Bild interviewed Ukrainian Army soldiers using civilian DHL delivery vans to transport mortars. The soldiers proudly posed for photographs and happily chatted with the reporter, either not knowing or simply not caring that they were documenting a war crime.

        https://mronline.org/2021/12/11/the-maidan-massacre-in-ukraine/

        https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/06/10/how-monsters-who-had-beaten-jews-to-death-with-hammers-in-1944-became-americas-favorite-freedom-fighters-in-1945-with-a-little-help-from-their-friends-at-cia/

        • @Womble@lemmy.world
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          4•1 year ago

          A brand new account whose only posts are pushing Russian narratives, hmmm I wonder what this could be?

          • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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            5•1 year ago

            I have an account on every lemmy bruh, and a few on lemm.ee

            I live in seattle and im moving to vietnam shortly

            • davel [he/him]
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              2•1 year ago

              Say hi to Luna Oi for me (not really, she doesn’t know me).

              • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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                Lol, I have not actually seen many of her videos I do a lot of similar reading though 🫡 I know she had done some translation work which is always huge

                I am going to be the first guy working for an NGO who is not a CIA agent 😂🤣 jk but gonna improve the electrical grid so industrialization can accelerate not to doxx myself

                one of my fav books Dialectics of Dependency was recently translated into English only 5 years ago pretty sure? translation is very important work for serious writing

          • davel [he/him]
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            -2•1 year ago

            I wonder if you might be a #BlueAnon conspiracy theorist.

            • Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia
            • Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets
            • Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters
            • Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election
            • Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork
            • MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes
            • Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away
            • @FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works
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              2•1 year ago

              This is completely irrelevant.

              And if we’re going to talk about irrelevant shit, I might as well oblige.

              It’s almost tax season. It’s going to be a tough one this year. I think I’ll go see an expert to help me file.

              I also wore green socks yesterday. Very comfortable. Best I’ve had in my whole life.

              • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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                1•1 year ago

                It’s not irrelevant at all and you didn’t read anything I posted 😤

                • davel [he/him]
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                  4•1 year ago

                  Of course we haven’t read any of it: you’re a sock puppet /s

                  If this were any other instance than lemmy.ml, the mods would probably have deleted your comments already.

                  • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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                    1•1 year ago

                    That’s true, one of the lemmy guys desalines has a good war crimes list and his larger list of essays is relatively good

            • @PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocksB
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              2•1 year ago

              Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

              MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes

              Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

              I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

            • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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              2•1 year ago

              Haha good post overall but man Jacobin and Taibbi are hit or miss 😂 these are hits tho. Cheers

            • @Womble@lemmy.world
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              -1•1 year ago

              Ah yes, totally got me there with the obvious logical link between liberals over egging Trumps link with Russia → no state has ever or will ever try to push narratives on the internet.

              • davel [he/him]
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                1•1 year ago

                Uh-huh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

                • @Womble@lemmy.world
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                  2•1 year ago

                  Pretty rich from someone who’s entire position is a strawman

                  • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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                    3•1 year ago

                    Uh no there’s a reason why you think a russian bot is working you on lemmy, and that’s the mainstreaming of the russia narrative

                    Federation is confusing and annoying, i replied from another instance first but nobody saw my account.

                    I made this account with the Memmy app… which isn’t very good. You cannot even edit

                  • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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                    2•1 year ago

                    *mainstreaming of the russia gate narrative. it’s take over finland and sweden not just USA on MSNBC. i saw it at the gym it was drilled into my brain

        • @user91@lemmy.world
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          0•1 year ago

          This isn’t reddit (yet). No one here is buying what you’re selling.

          • davel [he/him]
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            1•1 year ago

            I don’t know why NATO liberals keep thinking they speak for us all.

          • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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            1•1 year ago

            84% of the world population agrees with me about Donbas self determination. I don’t give a fuck about the weird european countries and vassals of the USA

          • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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            0•1 year ago

            What are you talking about dumbass? Reddit still thinks Ukraine is winning. You came here FROM REDDIT.

            • @user91@lemmy.world
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              1•1 year ago

              Cute and adorable! Please tell us more.

              • @OleoSaccharum@lemm.ee
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                I don’t think that pointing out blatant inconsistencies in what you’re saying warrants this cookie cutter response. Seems like you didn’t read. Typical redditor response to disagreement. You should look over what I linked to.

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