Well, this is just weird. When I was migrating from Reddit to this fediverse world I chose .ml and thought it was short for “machine learning” which seemed as a cool domain for me at the time.
FYI, two letter TLDs are country/region/jurisdiction specific. There’s an ISO standard for that.
.tv Tuvalu
.me Montenegro
.fm (Federation of) Micronesia
Some countries append additional modifiers to classify their uses:
.uk United Kingdom
.co.uk Company
…
Three or more are generic (traditional or new)
.com, .net, .org, …
In some cases, Uncle Sam said “first!” and it stuck.
.edu Education (MURICA)
.mil Military (MURRICA)
.gov Government (MURRRICA)
Just like what happens with Mali, what some silicon valley hipsters decide as a ‘fun’ acronym is just that, a fun thought. If the corresponding government decides to take away a specific domain, they probably can.
That’s a poor excuse. If something is secret or higher it has a different TLD. The SIPRnet uses .smil for example. There are also tools at the boundaries that don’t allow going from SIPR to NIPR unless they meet specific criteria. Basically you can only leak those secrets accidentally if they were already on a system they shouldn’t have been on.
Zuurbier said he’s been pestering the US government and military for the last 10 years to get them to do something about the problem. The military told the FT it blocks outgoing emails to .ml domains from its own network. There’s presumably little it can do about emails sent from other domains.
its just that with the end of the contract between Mali and the registrar, the military emails got in the news as now army.ml and navy.ml are controlled by the Mali government rather than the CEO of the registrar.
Thanks for the clarification. If this instance goes down please someone start an ‘‘lemmy.ai’’ instance. I want to follow the same logic that I went with since the beginning.
Yes, as there are plenty of other developers who are openly liberals or some other flavour of capitalism. You don’t need to agree with the developers political choices all the time to use their software.
Yeah they are, so if they did choose .ml for that reason they would have no problem admitting it also. So it’s pretty clear that they just wanted a free domain.
Well, this is just weird. When I was migrating from Reddit to this fediverse world I chose .ml and thought it was short for “machine learning” which seemed as a cool domain for me at the time.
FYI, two letter TLDs are country/region/jurisdiction specific. There’s an ISO standard for that.
.tvTuvalu.meMontenegro.fm(Federation of) MicronesiaSome countries append additional modifiers to classify their uses:
.ukUnited Kingdom.co.ukCompanyThree or more are generic (traditional or new)
.com,.net,.org, …In some cases, Uncle Sam said “first!” and it stuck.
.eduEducation (MURICA).milMilitary (MURRICA).govGovernment (MURRRICA)Just like what happens with Mali, what some silicon valley hipsters decide as a ‘fun’ acronym is just that, a fun thought. If the corresponding government decides to take away a specific domain, they probably can.
That is what made this whole .ml problem. Some people have apparently accidentally leaked American state secrets to Mali by typo.
That’s a poor excuse. If something is secret or higher it has a different TLD. The SIPRnet uses .smil for example. There are also tools at the boundaries that don’t allow going from SIPR to NIPR unless they meet specific criteria. Basically you can only leak those secrets accidentally if they were already on a system they shouldn’t have been on.
Additionally, competent IT would make this fuck up impossible. I’m shocked that they didn’t whitelist TLDs and block all others.
Classified and top are in a separate system that can’t leak.
The registar that operates .ml, .tk, .ga, and some others has been having difficulty.
In March they got sued by Meta for operating domains with phishing operations. Their operations have been spotty for the past several months ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34194555 ). They lost the .ga domain in June ( https://forum.infinityfree.net/t/all-freenom-ga-domains-are-taken-down-by-registry/77131 ).
The issue with army.ml and navy.ml was just the most recent incident and may have accelerated things, but only by days (maybe weeks) as the agreement that the registrar had with Mali was for 10 years and expired the other day ( https://domainincite.com/28897-freenom-is-losing-another-cctld-after-collecting-military-emails ).
This isn’t a new thing - from the article:
its just that with the end of the contract between Mali and the registrar, the military emails got in the news as now army.ml and navy.ml are controlled by the Mali government rather than the CEO of the registrar.
.eduis not only american. For example I know many schools in France have.edudomains and emails, and I believe it’s the case in many more countries.In 2001 it was limited to US educational institutions only, all registrations prior were grandfathered in.
Although I haven’t got a clue why my non-US university, founded in 2009, has a .edu domain.
I did not know that. That’s not cool
Pretty sure most countries use .ac for universities. Ac.uk, ac.au, ac.nz are all standard.
Australia doesn’t. We’re all .edu.au
Edit: here is the list of who uses it. Stands for academia if it wasn’t self evident to anyone else either.
2nd edit: having trouble with escaping characters in the link so it’s defaulting to the ac page when it should be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ac_(second-level_domain)
Sorry, remembered wrong.
Stands to reason, you guys like .com.au instead of .co.wherever as well.
https://www.monash.edu
Just checked all 43 unis in this list and only Monash and carangie melon, which is an international uni, break the trend.
And io belongs to the British Indian Ocean Territory.
There are thousands of gTLDs now, though. But most of them are brand names.
https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db
Thanks for the clarification. If this instance goes down please someone start an ‘‘lemmy.ai’’ instance. I want to follow the same logic that I went with since the beginning.
What about .world?
That’s a generic top-level domain. It is not associated with any country. It belongs to “Identity Digital Inc.”.
Interesting, thanks
No, it’s Mali.
The rumour is that lemmy devs chose it to mean “marxist leninist” but I think it’s more likely they wanted a free domain name.
The rumor is fake, the devs have said it multiple times. If they would have wanted to do some funny Marxism meme they would have used .su
Maybe they didn’t choose it for that, but to be fair they are definitely and admittedly Marxist-Leninists
Yes, as there are plenty of other developers who are openly liberals or some other flavour of capitalism. You don’t need to agree with the developers political choices all the time to use their software.
Right. My statement was one of fact, not trying to say it’s a bad thing. I’m a Marxist-Leninist as well.
Hello there comrade! Nice to have you here!
This was a lovely exchange comrades
Yeah they are, so if they did choose .ml for that reason they would have no problem admitting it also. So it’s pretty clear that they just wanted a free domain.
SU = Soviet Union
Don’t you need to be a citizen of a CIS nation to get a .su domain?
It depends on the registrar.
I mean, I knew it was a country top level domain but I was told Dessalines intended the “ml” as an abbreviation for “marxist-leninist”
That is not true, he has said multiple times it was used because it was free.
Some Lemmygrad dude bragged about that… Should have known it was wrong.
Anyways, thx for the clarification