• Cowbee [he/they]
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    022 days ago

    Correct, it wasn’t about agreeing to invade and divide Europe. You’re conflating the two, but they aren’t at all the same.

    • RaivoKulli
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      022 days ago

      Well it was an agreement to divide Europe. Invasion ended up happening in lots of places to further solidify that sphere of influence. So very closely connected.

      • Cowbee [he/they]
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        022 days ago

        No, lol. It was an agreement that if war broke out, the Nazis and communists would stick to their areas. First, neither expected it to last, and second, it isn’t an agreement to invade Europe.

        • RaivoKulli
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          022 days ago

          would stick to their areas

          That’s how the dividing worked

          • Cowbee [he/they]
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            022 days ago

            You’re implying

            1. That the Soviets intended on invading Europe, and having the pact last

            2. That the Soviets wanted to invade.

            Neither is backed up by the facts at hand.

            • RaivoKulli
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              022 days ago

              I don’t know about those, I just know what happened in that they did divide Europe to those spheres if influence and did end up invading or otherwise incorporating the mentioned areas. Not just the Soviets but the Nazis too.

              • Cowbee [he/they]
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                022 days ago

                They didn’t, though. They went to war to stop the Nazis, the only time it came into use was when the Nazis invaded Poland and the soviets prevented them from taking all of Poland.

                Also, there’s no need to reply on both threads.

                • RaivoKulli
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                  022 days ago

                  The dividing into speheres of influence and subsequent actions in those spheres all happened. Not just Poland but elsewhere. You’re more arguing about justification, which is different matter.

                  Also, there’s no need to reply on both threads.

                  Reply to just one of these next and we’ll continue on that thread. Up to you which

                  • Cowbee [he/they]
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                    022 days ago

                    No, it didn’t. Nazi Germany collapsed, and the USSR did not invade Europe. You’re trying to argue that it was a Soviet ploy to invade Europe.