Soviets didn’t “try” to threaten to declare war if Poland was invaded. The whole thing is about what could’ve been if they had taken that step instead of what they ended up doing.
Gotcha, the Soviets should have risked entering a war they weren’t certain they could win and weren’t certain the west wouldn’t flip on them. In other words, you wish they had committed suicide for Poland.
As for Katyn, it’s the same source that you read earlier, it’s Grover Furr’s blog. Grover Furr often makes poor arguments, but the historical evidence he presents is valid. You can’t explain the factual discrepancies in the documents, the eyewitness accounts stating that the Nazis did it, nor the German ammunition from 1941, nor the German produced rope, nor the Nazi execution methods, nor why you’re agreeing with Goebbels, who first created the story and whose account the anti-communist governments agree with. In absence of a response, you just say “No” and “Hah.”
You say gotcha a lot but I’m sorry to say you haven’t gotcha it a lot. I said they could’ve threatened it to use as deterrent. It never got that far though, threat or actual declaration because of Poland. My meaning and your gotcha are often very different.
As for Katyn
You do keep trying but like said, not interested in this conspiracy theory.
If they threatened war, they would have been attacked. They knew an attack was coming, and giving the Nazis a cause for war could have been used by the west to side with the Nazis. This was not without evidence.
Harry Truman later, in 1941 in front of the Senate, stated:
If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible, although I don’t want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances.
Are you calling the mountains of evidence the Nazis did it falsified, or do you just make it a habit to take Goebbels at his word?
If they threatened war, they would have been attacked.
We don’t know that, nor if the attack on Poland would’ve gone ahead with the threat from both sides. That’s why it would’ve been a gamble. Then again, so was making a deal with them, Germany might have continued on the attack once both sides met in Poland.
Gotcha, so your point is that you denounce the Soviets for not taking an almost assured loss, and you do tkae Goebbels at his word even when evidence points to the contrary.
Soviets didn’t “try” to threaten to declare war if Poland was invaded. The whole thing is about what could’ve been if they had taken that step instead of what they ended up doing.
No.
Hah
Gotcha, the Soviets should have risked entering a war they weren’t certain they could win and weren’t certain the west wouldn’t flip on them. In other words, you wish they had committed suicide for Poland.
As for Katyn, it’s the same source that you read earlier, it’s Grover Furr’s blog. Grover Furr often makes poor arguments, but the historical evidence he presents is valid. You can’t explain the factual discrepancies in the documents, the eyewitness accounts stating that the Nazis did it, nor the German ammunition from 1941, nor the German produced rope, nor the Nazi execution methods, nor why you’re agreeing with Goebbels, who first created the story and whose account the anti-communist governments agree with. In absence of a response, you just say “No” and “Hah.”
You say gotcha a lot but I’m sorry to say you haven’t gotcha it a lot. I said they could’ve threatened it to use as deterrent. It never got that far though, threat or actual declaration because of Poland. My meaning and your gotcha are often very different.
You do keep trying but like said, not interested in this conspiracy theory.
Harry Truman later, in 1941 in front of the Senate, stated:
We don’t know that, nor if the attack on Poland would’ve gone ahead with the threat from both sides. That’s why it would’ve been a gamble. Then again, so was making a deal with them, Germany might have continued on the attack once both sides met in Poland.
Gotcha, so your point is that you denounce the Soviets for not taking an almost assured loss, and you do tkae Goebbels at his word even when evidence points to the contrary.
I mean I’m denouncing everyone else too who didn’t do more to stop the Nazis.
The Soviets did the most before, during, and after World War II, and it isn’t close.
I’m not sure how you’d measure it but they sure sacrificed a lot.