For the bourgeoisie, perhaps, but only temporarily. We can see that out of every country right now that it’s the Socialist PRC that is making the most dramatic and rapid improvements and growth.
I’ve been pro-PRC for years, but more people have started shifting their opinions based on the latest trade war and how China is standing up to US bullying.
The PRC is Socialist, large firms and key industries are firmly in the public sector, while the private sector is largely cooperatives, sole proprietorships, and small firms. This is classically Marxist. I elaborate more on this here.
Economic growth is merely one vector. The PRC saw the largest reduction in poverty on the planet, has strong democratic control from the people, very high approval rates, high confidence in improving conditions, and regularly increasing purchasing power for workers. The PRC is also leading the green revolution, and isn’t Imperialist like the liberal countries you claim to work so well.
just because we have shiny new inventions every year doesnt mean its working for everyone. the entire system of capitalism is based on taking advantage of the poor. to the point of killing them directly and indirectly en mass, through war and poverty related illness. so that the rich can own more property and assets.
then why is the american military the largest expenditure by the US government? why does the military industrial complex exist? why does the “richest nation on earth” have the largest debt, no free healthcare, a massive homeless population, but also the most billionaires? why do they survive by exploiting third world countries where people starve to death daily? why do they constantly undermine socialist and communist movements in other countries that have valuable resources? going so far as to assassinate popular leaders and trading them for puppet dictators?
thats literally capitalism living off the backs of the poor, and murdering them for profit, and they have to keep them poor so they can take advantage of them. thats why capitalism hates unions, labour laws, and social reform at home and abroad. it effects the bottom line and maximum profit margins. its inherent in the system, and a part of its structure. its what allows it to “work” in the first place. and whenever capitalism has its way, unchecked, the poor suffer and die as a result. through no fault of their own besides being born into an unequal society, with little or no opportunity because of their lack of starting capital, compared to the wealthier participants in the same system.
i implore you to read almost any book on american history and economics. the US itself was built on genocide and slavery for the purpose of profit, under the guise of freedom. and that simply evolved into different forms over the years, its still prevalent to this day.
i wish you well on your journey of self education on this topic.
then why is the american military the largest expenditure by the US government?
Its not and the fact you couldnt even do basic research to prevent parroting an obviously incorrect fact is shocking. Like I said before, your analysis is vibes based not reality based.
the department of defence spending is the single largest catagory within discretionary spending. 842 billion in 2024 alone. easily verifiable if you cared enough to even type it into google. or use the wayback machine for pre trump admin white washing of .gov websites if you like it raw. dont even attempt to lump in social security and medicaid together along with several other discretionary spending categories like a talking head at fox news would to make your “point”, thats misinformation, or straight up confusion on your part.
this isnt a vibe, its a fact. so, with all do respect, perhaps practice what you preach, and do your research.
Of course im aware its the largest item its category once you filter spending into categories that specifically remove welfare and debt spending. Discretionary spending specifically is a small part of government expenditure so trying to pass the top item off as the largest expenditure by the government is misleading.
Skimming through the rest of your comment I can see i was right to ignore it since pretty much everything is wrong. Military industrial complex doesnt exist, majority of rich nations have debt, US has “free” healthcare its just worse than non existent, plenty of countries have “large” homeless populations and lastly yes a lot of countries have billionaires.
None of this is a capitalism problem. Its all the fault of poor governance. Given the track record of american leadership they would be in a far worse spot if they were at the mercy of their government for everything. Right now we see their government actively trying to destroy them.
Liberalism and capitalism is the best system in the world.
For the bourgeoisie, perhaps, but only temporarily. We can see that out of every country right now that it’s the Socialist PRC that is making the most dramatic and rapid improvements and growth.
It’s interesting how many China stans have popped up in the past few weeks.
That’s the normal stance on Lemmy.
It was founded by communists, so you’d better get used to it
Honestly I don’t notice much of that.
Plenty of right-wingers here.
We’ve been here for, like, four years…
I’ve been pro-PRC for years, but more people have started shifting their opinions based on the latest trade war and how China is standing up to US bullying.
The PRC is a capitalist country but not liberal. They have good growth but they lack a lot of the freedoms we enjoy in liberal society.
Also its funny to me how when you wanted to pick which system was “the best” you selected economic growth.
The PRC is Socialist, large firms and key industries are firmly in the public sector, while the private sector is largely cooperatives, sole proprietorships, and small firms. This is classically Marxist. I elaborate more on this here.
Economic growth is merely one vector. The PRC saw the largest reduction in poverty on the planet, has strong democratic control from the people, very high approval rates, high confidence in improving conditions, and regularly increasing purchasing power for workers. The PRC is also leading the green revolution, and isn’t Imperialist like the liberal countries you claim to work so well.
for the rich? absolutely.
For every single person
Why don’t you move to Nigeria then?
just because we have shiny new inventions every year doesnt mean its working for everyone. the entire system of capitalism is based on taking advantage of the poor. to the point of killing them directly and indirectly en mass, through war and poverty related illness. so that the rich can own more property and assets.
its a horrible system.
Yeah… thats not what capitalism is based off but a nice vibes based analysis none the less.
then why is the american military the largest expenditure by the US government? why does the military industrial complex exist? why does the “richest nation on earth” have the largest debt, no free healthcare, a massive homeless population, but also the most billionaires? why do they survive by exploiting third world countries where people starve to death daily? why do they constantly undermine socialist and communist movements in other countries that have valuable resources? going so far as to assassinate popular leaders and trading them for puppet dictators?
thats literally capitalism living off the backs of the poor, and murdering them for profit, and they have to keep them poor so they can take advantage of them. thats why capitalism hates unions, labour laws, and social reform at home and abroad. it effects the bottom line and maximum profit margins. its inherent in the system, and a part of its structure. its what allows it to “work” in the first place. and whenever capitalism has its way, unchecked, the poor suffer and die as a result. through no fault of their own besides being born into an unequal society, with little or no opportunity because of their lack of starting capital, compared to the wealthier participants in the same system.
i implore you to read almost any book on american history and economics. the US itself was built on genocide and slavery for the purpose of profit, under the guise of freedom. and that simply evolved into different forms over the years, its still prevalent to this day.
i wish you well on your journey of self education on this topic.
Its not and the fact you couldnt even do basic research to prevent parroting an obviously incorrect fact is shocking. Like I said before, your analysis is vibes based not reality based.
the department of defence spending is the single largest catagory within discretionary spending. 842 billion in 2024 alone. easily verifiable if you cared enough to even type it into google. or use the wayback machine for pre trump admin white washing of .gov websites if you like it raw. dont even attempt to lump in social security and medicaid together along with several other discretionary spending categories like a talking head at fox news would to make your “point”, thats misinformation, or straight up confusion on your part.
this isnt a vibe, its a fact. so, with all do respect, perhaps practice what you preach, and do your research.
Of course im aware its the largest item its category once you filter spending into categories that specifically remove welfare and debt spending. Discretionary spending specifically is a small part of government expenditure so trying to pass the top item off as the largest expenditure by the government is misleading.
Skimming through the rest of your comment I can see i was right to ignore it since pretty much everything is wrong. Military industrial complex doesnt exist, majority of rich nations have debt, US has “free” healthcare its just worse than non existent, plenty of countries have “large” homeless populations and lastly yes a lot of countries have billionaires.
None of this is a capitalism problem. Its all the fault of poor governance. Given the track record of american leadership they would be in a far worse spot if they were at the mercy of their government for everything. Right now we see their government actively trying to destroy them.
You think married people have it way worse?
I guess it just depends on what your metric is.
Unfortunately one of its leading metrics is its contributions to human suffering. It certainly is the best system in the world at spreading suffering.