• Tb0n3
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    03 months ago

    I am not a court. I don’t have to have a trial to believe in somebody’s guilt. According to the evidence I have seen it appears he shot a man to death.

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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      03 months ago

      He shot a man to death who killed thousands. He’s a vigilante if anything.

      • @Micromot@feddit.org
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        03 months ago

        He still commited a crime which makes him a criminal which is just a fact and has nothing to do with the crime being justified

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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          03 months ago

          What makes someone “criminal” as a quality? Breaking the law? Killing people? Are all health insurance workers criminals too?

          • @Micromot@feddit.org
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            3 months ago

            Commiting a crime makes you a criminal, so if you break a law you are a criminal. And if the decisions of health insurance workers are also breaking laws they are criminals too.

            • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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              03 months ago

              Then if you have ever gone faster than the speed limit, you are a criminal. That makes most people in the developed world criminals.

              That aside, the point is that naming someone a criminal has moralistic baggage, and by saying that anyone that breaks laws is a criminal thus immoral, you imply all laws are inherently moral.

                • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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                  03 months ago

                  Depends on the jurisdiction. In some places in some conditions going 50 in a 30 is a criminal act that can result in jail time.

                  • Tb0n3
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                    03 months ago

                    Just a bit more than “faster than the speed limit”.

          • @TheFogan@programming.dev
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            03 months ago

            I mean, the word criminal basically means law breaker.

            Now as many laws are unjust and many horrific actions are protected by the law.

            Just like at one point in time… a futitive slave, would be by definition a criminal, and his owner by definition not a criminal.

            Again, the whole concept is noting that it’s about the definition of the word criminal… and that criminal does not have to do with morality… only in concurance with the laws of the land it is taking place in.

    • You don’t know anything other than what lying American police told you and lying American media reported they said. You have absolutely no evidence or have any knowledge of his guilt or innocence. It appears that way to you because liars told you and now you are repeating it to me like an obedient dog.

      • Tb0n3
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        03 months ago

        Are you telling me it’s FAKE NEWS?

          • Tb0n3
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            03 months ago

            It really seems like it’s human nature to call out bullshit when you see it on your opposing side and then do mental gymnastics when it gets applied to you.

            • 🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴OP
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              This literally makes no sense, you applied nothing to me and you’ve said nothing of substance. You are unable to say anything worth while because you are a moron. You are totally full of shit too in that you believe you have evidence of a murder that you don’t and are sure people are guilty before any sort of due process. You’re just another propagandized American idiot and there is no value to reading anything you ever have to say. Talk to my block list fash

    • @underwire212@lemm.ee
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      03 months ago

      They are, by law, innocent until proven guilty. The “evidence” you have seen is certainly not all the evidence, and your beliefs have been swayed before defense can make an argument.

      I sure as hell hope you never serve on a jury.

      • Tb0n3
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        03 months ago

        I am not representing the law. I am representing my own opinion. I am not a judge or a jury member.