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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish • 6 months ago

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish • 6 months ago
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  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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    0•6 months ago

    Yeah, the reason being that the west made false promises to Ukraine that led to their destruction as has been the case with every prior western proxy.

    • @Railcar8095@lemm.ee
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      Russia promised to not invade, or rape or pillage… But yeah, west bad because isn’t helping enough.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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        Ukraine promised to implement Minsk and stop ethnic cleansing in Donbas for 8 years. Then western leaders came out and said that the purpose of Minsk agreements was to give Ukraine more time to arm.

        Meanwhile, the fact that it was the west who sabotaged the peace deal two months in is a well documented help

        • https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/
        • https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2022/09/03/west-peace-proposal-ukraine-russia/
        • https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/
        • https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms
        • even Nuland has now openly admitted this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc

        It’s incredible that anybody could be so utterly dishonest to characterize this as helping Ukraine.

        • @random@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          0•6 months ago

          the us maybe don’t care about ukraine, but ukraine knows that and still sides with the west, why? because russia is the bigger threat to them

          • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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            0•6 months ago

            How’s that going for them?

            • @random@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              probably good considering that they would be part of the russian empire if they didn’t fight back

              • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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                Did you just wake up from a 120 year coma?

                • @random@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  nope, putin wants to “reunite the empire”

                  • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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                    0•6 months ago

                    Source for that quote?

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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            0•6 months ago

            The west literally overthrew a democratically elected government in Ukraine to put in a fascist regime. The regime is the biggest threat to people of Ukraine and they know it. This is why nobody is actually signing up to fight this war. The reality is that people are being gang pressed into fighting by the nazis https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/world/europe/ukraine-military-recruitment.html

            In fact, according to Bloomberg, the share of forcibly mobilized soldiers in the Ukrainian army is 75% https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-20/ukraine-s-fight-against-russia-bolstered-by-millionaire-s-brigade

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