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@UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish • 7 months ago

Vote for/against whoever... but don't forget who the real enemy is.

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Vote for/against whoever... but don't forget who the real enemy is.

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@UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish • 7 months ago
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  • MudMan
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    0•7 months ago

    I mean, one of the two sides is putting forward the poster boy for rich people as a candidate and is largely bankrolled by the richest person on Earth.

    So… “vote for whoever” seems like it implies forgetting who the real enemy is by definition.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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      0•7 months ago

      I’m going to believe BlackRock CEO here who openly says that it doesn’t matter who wins US election; Trump & Kamala benefit Wall Street.

      • Rentlar
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        It would be just the same with Jill Stein or Chase Oliver as leader, Wall Street will benefit. There is obviously outsized influence of rich people in government, but big money makes money with money, doesn’t matter what the politics are.

        It’s more important that A. The US doesn’t put a leader who has real plans to become dictator and the Project2025 yes-men lined up behind it, and B. The US chooses a leader who better represents the national interests of common people, which will not happen if too many would-be Harris voters choose 3rd party or abstains.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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          0•7 months ago

          That’s why PSL exists.

      • MudMan
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        Right. So Trump and Musk actively advocating for eradicating income tax and dismantling the government is the same thing as Harris winning and not doing that because the framework of the system is capitalistic and them not blowing up the US economy enables rich people to keep being rich.

        That’s the argument.

        That is the least serious argument I believe I’ve ever heard. It is a magnificent crystal of disingenuousness. If you could compress unserious, fallacious political arguments into diamonds, they would be that train of thought.

        I mean, don’t get me wrong, this is absurd whenever it pops up. Like, it was absurd on the spectrum of relative centrist Obama against relative centrist McCain. But Trump vs Harris? The degree of detachment is cosmic.

        Anyway, adults have an actual real political system to worry about, so you do you. We can always pick this one up after the election if some semblance of liberal democracy remains to worry about.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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          0•7 months ago

          welcome to the real world child

          What do our findings say about democracy in America? They certainly constitute troubling news for advocates of “populistic” democracy, who want governments to respond primarily or exclusively to the policy preferences of their citizens. In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule—at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.

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