Who GAF. If Americans didn’t want a Trump dictatorship, the 10 million who voted for Biden in 2020 and didn’t bother to vote in 2024 should have fucking shown up and voted for Harris - in spite of blaming her for Gaza, or not liking that she used to be a prosecutor and therefore theoretically MUST have sent innocent black guys to prison, or being sick of no good choices, or whatever their half-assed reason was for doing nothing. At this point Biden can have Seal Team Six take out Santa Claus for all I care.
Kamala had every chance to appeal to those voters, define herself as a candidate, and provide answers for our economy, which at the end of the day is the one thing that really matters to voters. Instead, she pretended everything was fine, adopted narratives from the right and allowed them to posture like they have all the solutions, so she could look like an incompetent and feckless alternative to Republicans for people that were never going to vote for a Democrat anyways.
As a result, she very predictably failed to mobilize her own base. That is not the fault of the american public, and all of you scratched liberal vote shaming “democracy protectors” were never going outflank such an abysmal national campaign.
The Democrats are okay with bleeding voters and losing elections if the alternative is to challenge the power of capital, and the time has come to reckon with the fact that they are nothing but another obstacle in the fight for the people of this country.
Cheers to that!
I think we need to be done being talked down to by liberals who at the end of the day don’t actually care or feel a need to act.
I love it how the liberals think “Well Trump did it too!” is some kind of own. America is so comically corrupt it is hard to take their government and the people who support it seriously
Lmao there are loads of those comments in this thread. I need to start blocking libs because they say so much fascist apologia
He’s retiring and can help his one son. If I were him, I would have said “fuck it.” too…
And the people clearly voted overwhelmingly for fascism. So like, why go against the will of the people?
I also would have said fuck it and have Trump and friends sent to guantanamo.
Thanks to Trump judges, Presidents have Absolute Immunity.
Joe can absolutely start draining the swamp.
The time to do this would’ve been immediately after it was discovered that Trump took classified documents and had them in his home during visits from foreign agents.
The Republicans would’ve howled about it, but I think it could have been done, at that moment. Like, have the first news about it not be talking about the documents, but simply that former President Trump has been detained and will not be allowed to communicate with anyone but his legal representation, because of suspicion of potential coded communication to enemy agents.
Dark Brandon Forever
I’m torn.
It’s bad to pardon family, but at the same time, I’d fully support pardoning a random person who had a no-prison plea deal the judge threw out after the defendant admitted guilt.
Especially when the crime that resulted in a jail time sentence is one that’s almost exclusively used as an add-on for violent offenders. Any person with a medical Marijuana card and a gun or who ate half a gummy at a friend’s house in a state where it’s legal while their gun was locked in a safe at home has committed the same crime.
But it also looks bad for him to pardon his son, and Trump’s sycophants will absolutely cling to this.
How it looks is beside the point. If it’s moral then it’s moral, and people who are looking at it need to deal with it. As for what Trump’s sycophants will do, they’re going to do crazy s*** anyway.
When judges ignore plea deals, they are asking for people to strip them of power. That’s what happened here, the judge deserved what they got. If you can’t find justice in the courts, then to hell with the courts.
Yeah this is a man who committed a minor crime that’s rarely prosecuted who was sentenced because his father is President, he was about to have a real bad time because of who his father is if he wasn’t pardoned. I can’t judge Biden for this. He’d never have pardoned him if someone who would treat him on his own merits was the incoming president
Unfortunately Biden is known for packing up the slavery prisons with people who in any just country shouldn’t be there and keeping them there for the profits of corpos. In this light him pardoning his son is even worse than just nepotistic abuse of power.
They’ll cling to it but now that Hunter is pardoned all they can do is whine, just as Dems will do after Bonespurs pardons himself. But both will be done deals. Hunter Biden’s case will be over - no more wasting congressional time and resources with pointless hearings and investigations.
I agree with you that the sentencing was incredibly unjust and clearly politically motivated. I’m just incredibly frustrated that Biden is not doing anything that’s useful to Americans during his last few months in office.
That’s a pretty bold assertion that Biden is not doing anything useful to Americans.
Ok. What has he done in his lame duck period, or expressed intention to do, that helps Americans? So far I’ve seen him double down on helping Israel commit genocide and I’ve seen him pardon his son. I’m happy to be convinced otherwise but I’m sure not seeing it now.
Here is the only issue I have with the pardon. Once Kamala lost, Biden should have started to go hog wild with last minute shenanigans in order to give Americans things they actually need. Instead he decided to pardon Hunter a full month before leaving office rather than helping us out and doing the pardon on the last day. Now, even if he does do things that will help Americans, nobody will notice because of the pardon.
His administration is hopeless at messaging anyway so no one has known nor will they know anything Biden has done.
Why would the man that wrote the crime bill and helped throw millions of Americans in jail do anything to help Americans? 🤔
No wait, you’ll interrupt the natural process of jading that needs to occur before a larval leftist pupates.
Like a fine ice wine
Who cares if anyone notices the good being done? Do it anyways. How does this prevent that?
Dems need someone to notice if they want to ever have a chance at the big chair before the 2030’s.
There’s not going to be a 2028 election.
Yes, all those people thinking there’s a next time after voting in Napoleon!
I guess we still live in 1870? Though looking at absolute scum like Trochu, Thiers or Mac Mahon they would be certainly worthy of current USA.
They’d notice if he had Trump and all his goons disappeared to a black site… You know, as an official act… Against terrorism and traitors even
Now, even if he does do things that will help Americans, nobody will notice because of the pardon.
I don’t know why you’re so concerned for Genocide Joe’s legacy, but if his last 47 months are any indication, he’s unlikely to uncharacteristically give Americans what they actually need in his 48th.
Not my buddy Jim Crow Joe, it’s these damn Republican fascists he considers his friends who won’t let him make America great again
Eh, he’s been pretty good over all. We’ve had better, though the list of worse Presidents is a bit longer. Over all, Joe did step up and get more done than expected for what felt like a forced square into a round hole situation. What he might not have done was solve YOUR issues.
I think the absolute atrocity was the genocide in Israel but then again I’m not a democrat.
I’m not saying it’s okay, but to give some historical context, literally every president of the past 80 years and the next 5 presidents would have and will do what Biden has done towards Israel.
It’s part of America’s foreign policy, which means there’s literally nothing we can do about, anyone hanging ones hat upon that alone is foolish. It sucks a lot and fuck Israel, but having America taking a hard-line against Israel is like asking water to stop being wet or Matt Gaetz to stop looking punchable
Well, except REAGAN of all people, who told them to settle the fuck down on Lebanon, called it a genocide, and got the IOF to back off.
Ronald “AIDS is no concern, fuck the working class” Reagan was better on Israel than Joe Biden.
he was pretty good
he did some genocide but that is normal
You should do some self-criticism ASAP before you get correctly called a racist fascist.
This chancellor was pretty good, not a fan of his immigration policy but how about that Autobahn?
They were planned in 20’s and during III Reich only around 15% of the plan was complete, their importance was very limited because not many Germans had cars and overwhelming most of transportation both civilian and military was done by trains, but the PR was colossal and all the fash ever since masturbate to it (i know your post was ironic, but to add some context for people that might not get it).
It’s part of America’s foreign policy, which means there’s literally nothing we can do about.
incorrect we did exactly what we needed to do. we fired him for it (among other reasons). unfortunately harris didn’t pick up on the message and as a result also wasnt hired as a result. enjoy your fascism.
I’m not saying it’s okay, but to give some historical context, literally every president of the past 80 years and the next 5 presidents would have and will do what Biden has done towards Israel.
Ronald fucking Reagan forced Israel into a ceasefire with Lebanon, Syria, and the Palestine Liberation Organization. And it was a real ceasefire, unlike the current joke of a ceasefire Israel has with Lebanon that it keeps violating, and it held for a long-ass time.
I think Biden should have gone hog wild with shenanigans that Americans actually need 4 years ago, but you’re right that now would still be a good time.
They’re already trying to finalize rules, complete process do previously passed initiatives can be nailed down. The government can be very slow, and that’s a good thing for stability and fairness. It’s especially good to reduce the promised dumpster fire of the next four years.
Is there really anything he can start at this point that would have lasting effects? Going hog wild with shenanigans may be satisfying but not likely to do anything more than create headlines
I feel like creating headlines is sort of what the Democratic party needs right now though. They just lost what should be a slam dunk election largely because a bunch of people just didn’t show up. Flashy headlines probably make at least some of those people show up.
He has immunity. He could legit just start arresting people with the Guard
Everyone who is upset about this fails to comprehend that the world has fundamentally changed since then and Americans literally voted trump into office.
Either that or they’re paid trolls. Hard to tell sometimes.
Everyone that criticizes Biden or democrats must surely be a paid troll or not understand the world like me the adult in the room
Do you people not realize we hear this tritte smug bullshit day in an day out and it doesn’t make you sound smart.
You don’t understand that republicans are trying to outrage you over nothingburger after nothingburger. Its OK, it takes a long time to learn that lesson, but until you do you’re playing into fascist hands.
You don’t understand that we don’t actually give a fuck about the pardon of Hunter, it is a demonstration of all the shit he could do to help people in his last days in office, just going ham with pardons and executive orders and he did literally nothing, not even student debt relief. Do not talk to me like a child when you yourself come in here not even knowing wtf YOU are talking about.
This condescending bullshit from someone that doesn’t even understand what is so infuriating about this move in the absence of helping actually deserving people is what everyone is shitting on him for. I am not even outraged because I am not surprised. What does outrage me are liberals like you that don’t even understand what everyone is dunking on.
Thank you for encapsulating my point so succinctly. Biden has been trying to pass student debt relief for his entire presidency. The fact that we’re still talking about this falls squarely on the shoulders of the repugnants and no one else. And for anything else he could do by executive order, there’s no point since the incoming dictator can and will just undo it all, and is already on record saying he’s going to do exactly that.
You live in a fantasy land he could literally cancel it all right now unilaterally which can’t just be undone by the next president, he could go full fucking stalin and imprison the people YOU are calling a dictator and fascists but you don’t give a fuck because none of this affects you personally and if the left did come for any of your treats and ill gotten gains you earn on the blood of the global south you’d become a fascist in a heartbeat your self. You don’t even know how the US government works and you keep talking down to me. Fuck off dude quit simping for a guy that hates you and is prosecuting a genocide. Your belligerent ignorance is not welcome here drag your garbage ass opinions back to reddit they love dolts like you.
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It’s funny how they will be all hush hush when he starts pardoning the j6 morons.
DNC: We’re the friendly fascists. We choose the corporation over the people in all aspects. We still worship the oligarchy the MAGA fascists will incorporate, we just choose the honey of caring about social issues as opposed to the vinegar of hating the others.
They have some good policy. So don’t forget that. If Americans voted based on policy alone they would do themselves a lot more good. That said, the DNC fails to win elections and have sceded so much power to the GOP already they might as well be the same.
They only have “good” policy when they know it’ll fail.
Not true
I want to be mad, but this is nothing compared to who trump pardoned.
compared to who Trump pardoned
…and will soon add himself to that list.
Wait when did Biden abuse his powers to prevent fascism?
Currently he’s creating a comfy transition for one to become president.
That was the point, he didn’t. he used it selfishly for his son. which is understandable. but we’re mocking him for it because he didn’t use it to do anything useful. Which coincidentally is also why we didn’t want to keep him or harris as president.
Ah, thanks!
Yeah. This is the pardon that is going to break the country, not the fact that individual’s who received a pardon from Trump’s first term and now being nominated to his cabinet.
What part of this post is about mothafuckin Trump homie?
Stop enabling lawlessness cuz it’s from your colored team.
Neither of those things are going to break the country. It’s a matter of priorities. Dems sell themselves as the adults in the room who are going to fight against fascism. And this is what Biden is doing instead.
There was a great episode of the daily show with Jon recently after the election. Basically his point was the democrats keep doing things because of “norms” or “tradition” while the republicans have completely thrown both out the window to win. It’s time for the democrats to start doing the same. Taking the political high ground for “norms” and “traditions” is causing their constituents to suffer. It’s clear that the norms politicians have followed for the past 250 years are not rule, law or enforceable. The dems need to realize what they are fighting against and step up to the battlefield in which they find themselves, then after regaining power they need to code these previous norms into law with actual consequences for ignoring them.
Here is the clip: (it’s about 1//2 through, but the whole thing is worth watching)
Democrats won’t abandon norms and traditions, because they play a good cop to Republicans’ bad cop. They are all in one big club and you aren’t in it.
It’s time for the democrats to start doing the same. Taking the political high ground for “norms” and “traditions” is causing their constituents to suffer.
My brother in christ that is what this meme is saying. When constituents are crying out for help, the Dems tell us “Biden must not stoop to fascism”. I remember liberal lemmyposters using that very argument quite recently. Biden finally decides to abuse his executive power after years of telling us “The D’s are better than that” and it’s for personal gain. THAT’S THE JOKE
Fuck me running… here you be defending that choice. Why?
Why?? It’s abundantly clear he will never use it for you or me.
great episode of the daily show with Jon
This tells me everything i assumed about your politics from your first comment is actually 100% fact
For civilians, posting revenge porn like mtg did during congressional hearings would be highly illegal and any judge would take that into consideration. Judges are a lot more lenient than people think and he broke the law, but he is the only one who ever had Congress use revenge porn on…
It is also crazy they spent millions investigating Hunter Biden because they found nothing on Biden himself
If MTG didn’t fiddle herself over Hunter every night and post his dick pics everywhere, sure, Biden shouldnt have done it
But, they did.
The harsh reality is, that Biden should be able to sue for damages, but he can’t do that
I really can’t blame him. If I were Biden, I would not want my child in a justice system controlled by Trump and his cronies
Exactly how I feel. It is certainly favoritism that undermines our justice system, but I think very few people would choose not to intervene to save a child they loved from great suffering, even if they knew their child had earned the punishment. It may be wrong, but it’s very understandable that in this case he prioritizes being a good father over being a good president.
Yep. But I don’t want to hear cope and the liberals explaining why it’s good and all his other shittiness is excused.
Let’s face it for elites… They are not American, they are Elites that use America as their playground … The Biden tanked the Harris campaign out of spite and don’t care who gets in as it doesn’t really affect them.
These are extremely rich people… Unless we are in Red China, they have nothing to fear
No offense, but Harris more than capably tanked her own campaign by being as milquetoast as biden when it comes to supporting the working class.
None taken, however my comment and yours can both be true which is my concern…
From various reports it would seem that President Biden is quite a nasty little thing that, with his wife, have a very overinflated view of themselves… (what président doesn’t I guess) however he has been vindictive for being ousted for the president debste(which was a no brainer…) and honestly I truly believe that he did on purpose to tank Harris.
She has herself to blame for sure however, even Bill Clinton through his speach about the middle eastern conflict stired up the wrong tone…
The democratic party is in need to a cleanup… Then again I would say the same of the republican as well as they are under the leadership of a loon… (thinking of Black Adder with King George III)
Yeah but had harris done the correct thing and disowned biden’s policies (critically around israel and corporate water carrying) and been a decent human being and supported working americans. biden wouldn’t have been able to impact shit.
Yup, this is the comment to be remembered for the 2028.100%agreed
Red China is long gone mon ami. Communism with Chinese Characteristics loves the rich, but only if you’re aligned to the correct clique.
Fair point👍
I was saying fair point that China today is not that of the 70’s …
There is a corrupt rich class in China and the communist party is struggling to “harmonize”
Then again, I would not wish to Be the leader of a billion people… It’s not easy decision for sure…
This is a common statement by those who haven’t read theory, especially among the Western Left, but this isn’t true in any capacity. Billionaires are regularly executed in the PRC, the fact that the PRC has a private sector doesn’t mean it has shifted away from Marxism-Leninism. The entire reason Marx predicted Socialism, ie Public Ownership and Central Planning, to overtake Capitalism is because markets naturally prepare the foundations for Socialism. Competition forces more and more companies to consolidate and grow, develop their own infrastructure for planning, which can be siezed and used by the public.
Question 17 : Will it be possible to abolish private property at one stroke?
Answer : No, no more than the existing productive forces can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society. Hence, the proletarian revolution, which in all probability is approaching, will be able gradually to transform existing society and abolish private property only when the necessary means of production have been created in sufficient quantity.
-Engels, The Principles of Communism
Half the economy of the PRC is in the Public Sector, and another almost tenth is in the cooperative sector. The Private Sector covers mostly light industry that depends on Publicly Owned industries like steel and public infrastructure. As Capital consolidates in the Markets, the CPC increases ownership. I recommend reading Socialism Developed China, Not Capitalism. Markets are more efficient at lower levels of development, and Public Ownership and Planning is more efficient at higher levels of development.
If you want to learn more about Marxism, I made an introductory Marxist reading list.
In the end, if people aren’t willing to vote against fascism, you cannot prevent it by establishing new rules (or in this case breaking the old ones).
Yeah a lot of people blaming Biden when we all had a fair shot at voting against fascism. We suck. May as well actually accept that.
Don’t put yourself down at the request of those above you.
Pssh. I mean, I voted. I did my part. Millions others though didn’t.
I don’t why lemmy people find it so hard to not blame the DNC and actually blame the people who either voted for fascism or did nothing to stop it. Maybe because some of them are the very same as the latter.
Cause it’s not productive and doesn’t do anything.
We can blame the people that voted for it and not for it all we want but they are a manifestation of other issues. There is not a specific person you can blame when the numbers hit the millions. It becomes useless musing.
People don’t think like you. Just you. It then becomes on us and those that lead and aim to gather the support of others to figure out why they didn’t reach more.
Sure it does. Same way you shame bad parts of society. Non voters deserve blame and shaming. Ignoring their abdication of civic duty just entrenches their bad behavior by excusing it.
You can’t vote your way out of fascism but you can certainly vote your way into it.
Maybe one of these days the liberals will fucking learn from history.
