I’ve seen some people getting genuinely uncomfortable at the recent discourse. Just wanted to point out there’s more than one kind of weird.

  • Unbecredible
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    09 months ago

    Weird just means unusual (with slight negative connotations already) . So to use “weird” as an unqualified insult is to say that being unusual is a negative thing in itself. Which echoes the sentiment behind things like xenophobia and such. That’s why people are uncomfortable with this line of political attack, imo.

    To say “there’s good weird and bad weird” doesn’t say much more than that there are ways of being unusual that you view positively and those that you view negatively. But that’s obvious and doesn’t resolve the issue I mentioned before.

  • @pfm@scribe.disroot.org
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    09 months ago

    I suspect it’s related to USA current affairs and have no clue what it’s referring to. Any hints for us outsiders?

    • The Dem VP pick, Tim Walz, started referring to the Repubs as “weird,” to which they responded by having conniption fits. Terrorists, rapists, pedophiles… all manner of names have been levied against the right, but a simple schoolyard taunt has them in tears. It’s pretty interesting.

  • Nougat
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    09 months ago

    I think “scary weird” is an excellent clarification.

  • originalucifer
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    09 months ago

    i dont think now is the time to be muddying the waters. conservatives dont need the assist, youre just giving them an out

      • originalucifer
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        09 months ago

        no, they absolutely dont. giving them an option of ‘good weird’ is going to derail that

        • I get that. I don’t think they’re capable of that level of self reflection. To them, weird is BAD. It’s being a part of the “out” group, which is anathema to them.

        • @5C5C5C@programming.dev
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          09 months ago

          I think the point is that Republicans detest the idea of being weird no matter what, so they would rage at the suggestion of being a good weird anyway. To them “good weird” is an oxymoron, even though they are actually very weird and not in any kind of good way.

          • originalucifer
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            09 months ago

            yeah that makes sense. i was envisioning them attempting to ‘own’ it by jumping into ‘good weird’ with both feet.

            but as someone else pointed out also, thats prolly giving them too much sefl-aware credit

            • Rhynoplaz
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              09 months ago

              They’ve been bullying the good weirdos for decades, there’s no backtracking now!

    • @Glide@lemmy.ca
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      It doesn’t matter. Convservativea cannot accept the notion of a “good weird” because it removes all justification from their beliefs. The whole conservative belief system is founded on the notion that there is an effective normal and that normal must be protected from those that would upset it.

      They cannot say they’re the “good kind of weird”, because that means admitting that weird can be good. And if weird can be good, they have no ground to plant the roots of their beliefs in. They have to be normal, because if they’re weird, all the time they spent attacking others for being weird in the defence of what’s normal doesn’t make any sense. Calling themselves the good kind of weird is a complete 180 on what it means to be conservative and alienated a massive portion of their voting base who only vote conservative because they see people who are “just like them”, not weirdos who are willing to redefine sex and gender, or question historical narratives.

      The “weird” angle of attack has been so effective because it deconstructs the very notion of what it means to be a conservative. Giving them an out through the “good kind of weird” doesn’t change that.

  • KillingTimeItself
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    09 months ago

    weird weird.

    I’m not good, or bad, i’m a force of chaos that cannot be reckoned with, only conceptualized.

    Also. what kind of discourse are we talking about?

    • That sucks. I’m sorry to hear that. As a life long vet of the Depression Campaigns, i can relate. I don’t have any magic words that i can drop that’ll magically make things better, but i wish i did. If you don’t have someone to talk to, you can bend my ear.

      • Biezelbob
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        9 months ago

        Prozac (no srs SSRIs changed a lot but ymmv,)

          • Biezelbob
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            09 months ago

            yeah you kinda want to feel something again(?)

            Had to go trough several drugs before hitting the jackpot, although I’m also on other meds.

            totally get it though

          • @arality@programming.dev
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            I know this is anecdotal, but when I was first diagnosed with depression they put me on medicine that made me devoid of feelings like your explanation. Well fast forward a few years and a new doctor. Turns out I’m bipolar, and being on the right medication has been SO helpful and such a night and day difference.

    • I’ve heard it a few times recently, then saw something posted in i think the autism instance? Dunno, not sure which it was, but this popped into my head and thought it illustrated it neatly.

      • @Crikeste@lemm.ee
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        Unrelated but I just wanted to say thanks for giving me the word ‘instance’. Been struggling to find a word besides ‘subreddit’ 😖

        I’m a fucking idiot: community is not a hard word lmao

        • Tlaloc_Temporal
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          Community and Instance actually have a hard meaning here. Communities are the equivalent of subreddits, while instances are the equivalent of reddits. Reddit only had the one instance of course.

          I wonder if mastodon has communities. Or is there a more twitter thing they do?

          • @Crikeste@lemm.ee
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            09 months ago

            I think mastodon is more akin to Twitter, but I can’t really say as I haven’t used it. Thanks for that clarification though, it is a pretty important distinction.