• Toes♀
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    571 year ago

    Anytime I hear “labour shortage” I remember what it really means is not enough people willing or able to work slave wages.

    • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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      131 year ago

      Japanese unemployment rate seems to be around 2,6%. They might genuinely lack truck certified people, especially depending on how many of that % is short term unemployed and whatnot

      • @nixcamic@lemmy.world
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        91 year ago

        Japan’s population is aging, which is true of all developed countries. Pretty much every other developed country solves this with immigration, something Japan has avoided.

      • Then pay to train people and ensure them a stable job. Offer a sweet deal, as workers are supposed to be agents who work in their self interest. The capitalism the right uses to argue for freer markets should demand this, but when capitalists get angry about labor shortages and act like they simply deserve loyal workers, it shows that they never gave a shit about liberal ideals. They only want to fuel their greed and fucked up desires to own other human beings as much as they can.

        • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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          21 year ago

          You mean to switch a job? Because we don’t know if those unemployed people are just temporarily between jobs, alkies, shut-in neets or what. Just paying to train them might not be a silver bullet, could just mean some other field will now face the employee shortage

    • Alien Nathan Edward
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      31 year ago

      If an apple costs a dollar and you don’t wanna pay that, there isn’t an apple shortage. The apples are there.

  • @Donjuanme@lemmy.world
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    221 year ago

    Let’s see where culpability lands after the first lawsuit, then I’ll decide if my forklift certification is in danger.

    Also lol @ OSHA (is it even OSHA, or state level?) forklift certification courses, it’s so easy if you have any functioning memory you’ll pass the written, and the practical is a bigger joke.

      • @Selmafudd@lemmy.world
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        61 year ago

        When I did it I got to a question I didn’t know and I jokingly asked the instructor what the answer was and he said “I can’t give you the answers” and then after a short pause “but there isn’t a rule about you all talking amoung yourselves”

      • In the three places I worked with lift equipment, one had no training, one had a week long course, and one relied on “previous experience” until they could squeeze you in to the one day class they periodically held for the revolving door of workers.

  • @ramenshaman@lemmy.world
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    151 year ago

    Automated forklifts have existed for quite a while, though they’re in fully automated facilities and there’s no risk of running over humans. I’ve worked at 2 different companies working on autonomous forklifts that are intended to be safe around humans and I don’t think they’ll really be able to compete on a large scale with humans anytime soon. Humans are so much faster. There are some environments where autonomous forklifts exceed, like warehouses that store hazardous materials, warehouses that contain products that get routinely stolen by employees, etc.

    • @Zorg@lemmings.world
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      11 year ago

      They don’t need fully automated areas, we have a couple dozen JBT AGV’s at work. They are fitted with 3 extra sensors, but it is my understanding those aren’t strictly required for them to operate in aisles shared with drivers and pedestrians; more of an abundance of caution choice. While they are slower, they must be well worth it since more are added every year.

  • @adhocfungus@midwest.social
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    131 year ago

    I don’t understand, haven’t these robots existed for almost 20 years? We’ve got a half dozen of these where I work moving pallets of stuff around the warehouse.

    • 520
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      181 year ago

      Because forklift operators operate where there are humans around and a single fuckup can mean a bloody and violent death, and with it huge penalties for procedures not being followed.

      It is understandable to not want to essentially put your entire company at risk to roboticise a few jobs.